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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Saturday 01 December 12 17:08 GMT (UK)  »
very sorry, Jess.

Records to hand show no Webster holding a licence in 1894.

There was a CW Webster who was first licensed in 1899 aged 24. He died in 1926.

Might this fit?

Good hunting.

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Monday 19 November 12 11:03 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you, Ozranga!

My own time in the Pilot Service was from 1959 (as a sixteen year old apprentice) until 1988.

Njones will I hope be interested to hear that during that period the name Sammy Jones was well remembered, particularly by way of a landing-place identified on the rocks near Amlwch, Anglesey, which was know in the Pilot Service as "Sammy Jones' Creek".  I never did see the place marked on any chart by that name but, for sure, the name was well known.

The landing place might even have taken its name from an earlier Sammy Jones, I simply don't know. But, yes, the name was well known!

For all I know, even the name "Sammy Jones' Creek" might have been mythical (rather like "Davy Jones' Locker") as I was never sure of its exact location. The name, though, was certainly a part of pilotage folk-lore.

Hope this might help.

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Sunday 18 November 12 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, Njones,


The name Sam Jones is certainly known in the Pilot Service and there is more than one S Jones in the list - but the last one retired in 1937, after holding a licence for thirty-nine years. He might well have been Senior Pilot at that time. He was born in 1872. Is this the man you mean?

He is shown as having died in 1945, aged 73, and therefore long past any active service by that time


Best,

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Tuesday 08 May 12 09:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi, Caring,

The records show

Martin, T (i) Born 1825 licensed 1842 retired 1880 died 1882.

A second entry shows identical dates for Martin, T (ii), except that the second name is shown as having been licensed in 1844. (It sounds like a clerical error somewhere; but solid evidence of the life of T. Martin at the time.)

There is a John Martin, born 1803, licensed 1822, died 1842:

also an older John Martin, licensed 1773, retired 1822 and died 1831.

Altogether there eleven Martins recorded as having served, the last one having died in 1916.

Hope this helps. For further information, do please try Merseyside Maritime Museum (where the original records are held).

Best wishes,

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Sunday 18 March 12 08:09 GMT (UK)  »
Good luck!

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Friday 16 March 12 11:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, Cellarrat,

A starting point which would help in your quest for verification of the notepaper is whether it describes the ship as "HMS Titanic" or whether it shows "RMS Titanic".    If it shows "H.M.S. Titanic" (as you indicate), then sadly it will not be authentic.

HMS = Her Majesty's Ship
RMS = Royal Mail Ship

They are two very different things.

Good luck.

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Monday 23 January 12 15:04 GMT (UK)  »
There is a record of a T. Davies who was born 1817, licensed 1836 and died in 1873.

The dates would fit, but I regret that I've no other details of his career. Merseyside Maritime Museum will in all probability have further detail.

Hope this helps,

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Tuesday 03 January 12 21:46 GMT (UK)  »
GB

Boing!!!

My profuse apologies!! So it does. I was quoting from another version of the List and, plainly, that is where the error lies. It is entirely mine.

The answer to Jan's question, therefore, is that there is a Joseph Martin of the dates which she quotes, but only one.

My repeated apologies - and thanks for pointing it out.

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Lancashire Lookup Offers / Re: Look-up Liverpool (Mersey) Pilots 1734/1990
« on: Tuesday 03 January 12 15:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, Jan,

Happy New Year ! - but sadly there is an error, somewhere.

There are several Martins in LPS records, but no Martin (at all) born in 1833, leaving in 1879 or dying in 1893.

The nearest (chronologically) are the following two (which are so similar that they also suggest an error, somewhere):-

Martin, T (i) Born  1825, licensed 1842, retired 1880, died 1882
Martin, T (ii) Born 1825, licensed 1844, retired 1880. died 1882

But there is no record of a Joseph Martin or a J Martin whose dates fit anywhere near those which you mention.

There are, however,  the following other names:-
G Martin
JAE Martin
JR Martin
James Martin  (x2)
John Martin    (x2)

but all are of substantially different dates.

Hope this might help. Do you have a date for which your Joseph Martin might have been issued with a licence? Or any other information as to his career? It is possible (just) that he might be missing from the LPS records.

Best,

BY

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