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On the 1902 marriage certificate it states the father, a police pensioner as deceased, so he died before reaching up to 69 because the police records  place his birth as 1833. This deducted by first placement Longford 1/8/1854 when 21. He may have been alive the year before. And his wife too.  The son in 1901 would have been probably staying near were he was married in Chatham. Although he was involved in military service to Pretoria SA, this has been confirmed in 1905 were his son was born in Pretoria. The first wife died soon after 1904 in Patoria also. I just looked at National Archives. Didn't seem to find much.

 Four weeks ago our family thought we were only from Scottish background and only had a birth certificate of  1902 for grandfather, a soldier born Stirling. (we have had previous  information through medals, and other history, and my research 10 years ago) I then found the grandfather and great grandfather in the 1911 census. Gt. grandfather as a soldier on a military base in Aldershot with his wife and her maiden name as a match to our present sir name. It gets a bit complex here as our grandfather changed his sir name to his mothers maiden name as his father left him for good when he was 12. The census record also had the step son, and the two other sons and this great grandfather's second wife. I found this great grandfather's birth cirtificate and marriage certificate to his first wife who we new had died shortly after giving birth to her first son, that being the son born in Stirling . So going back a generation with detale from census and marriage cert., this placed his birth at Camolough, and his father as a policeman. From there our war researcher found the police records of the great grandfather, based on no other near matches in age, and the Co Armagh as the area of registration as match to sons birth county. From there I found a marriage certificate based on date of marriage from police records, and place of work in police records, as one of the places of work being Co Cavan.

The police records show under Religion 'Ps' for John. Out of the 10 others on the printed page 2 are Ps, and the rest Cs. I  may have jumped to the church of Ireland conclusion for John. Are Methodist protestant also. And what about Quakers?

thanks,  yes im about 4 weeks old in research, apart frrom a 2 week go 10 years ago.  we were told about the home county shift of work for the police force. His work was in Longford, Kildare, Armagh/Camlough and Cavan. A war researcher threw in the police search also thinking it was a no helper, but it had the date of marriage for his wife matching a marriage certificate that matched place of work for John, that been Cavan, and of corse Westmeath as Johns native county. The war research came up with nothing new. I have a history of marriage book that has all sorts of young ages for marriage going back years ago. i phoned Mullingar libary today and the lady said most of the parish records have not been published, and many are in Dublin for Church of Ireland. And that we would need to know the parish if going for a search. not that im tring to quote her exactly, but that was the gist of what she said. If we find a marriage certificate with an Isaac as a steward and a church of Ireland man surely its in the bag. Just if thats going to happen is unknown. thanks for the leads. keepim comin. i spent 5 hours scratching my internet brain with a zero today

Hi any helpers. The person I'm trying to research is Isaac who was a steward around 1866. Not sure what capacity.

I have the marriage certificate of his son John Edwards a police man to Mary Stephens  on 15/03/1866.   Mary's father was a farmer. Regarding the marriage, the parish was KILDRUMFERTON. They were church of Ireland. He was from Kilnaleck, she Aghagegna.
I have his son John's police records, placing his birth at about 1833 . Of corse he moved to Camlough and they had a son John Henry 1870. I think i have popped a fue brain cells trying to find any leads on Isaac. Decided to go to Cavan this Saturday with my brother over from Melbourne just  to see the land.

regards,

Andy