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Hi Yorkslass

 No I don't have any dates, I just saw a lot of Brown's listed and one in particular Septimus, we have 4 of them on the tree so thats why I was intrested. I tried to look at the Lancaster gazatteer  on line news papers site but you have to enroll as a member of the library to view them, think I may do that.

 cheers
plumbob

Thanks Yorkslass

 Do you think if I paid the ten quid they would send records of all the brown's listed if so it could be worth the cost .
I have tried in the past to look at the criminal records on Ancestry and found that they just give the name , offence and punishment . without dates of birth / age or address so it makes it impossible to identify the individuals.

I'm hoping someone may be going to the records office and be willing to do a look-up for me a poor lancashire lad.

Cheers
plumbob

Hi Carole

He was single on both the 1901 and 1911 census , He was a boarder with my Great Grandfather Thomas Brown
at 14 or 18 Briery Street,Lancaster, household members listed on 1901 census
Thomas Brown
Margaret Ann Brown
John Jno Brown
Lunnie Brown
John Thos Tylor  age 44 born Kendal,  Westmorland, estimated Birth abt 1857. 
John Moreland

on the 1911 Census
There are two John Taylor's listed
John Taylor , brother in law  age 58 born Kendal, Westmoreland.
John Taylor  Lodger  age 61.born Burton, Westmoreland

I did try to find him on the 1881 Census but no luck,

He was always  known to the family as Tiler , My Grandfather John James Brown always spoke with great affection
about Tiler, so I just wanted to find out a little about his life. 

The brother in law John Taylor was born John Birbeck in abt 1856 in Westmoreland ( Stanongate?)his mother was Elisabeth Birbeck she married William Taylor in 1858 so it looks like William may have formerly or informally adopted Elizabeths son.

so anything else  I can find is a plus.
cheers
Plumbob

Hi Eric and Mo
With your help I think that I have managed to sort it all out ,Septimus was married 3 times in total.
The first was Sarah Shuttleworth who died 18 Feb 1882. He then married twice more before the next census both wives named Elizabeth.

Elizabeth Downham b 22 Mar 1831  Lancaster Farther William Downham mother Sarah.
She then married Thomas Titterington  03 Oct 1847 in Lancaster and he died 1873 in Lancaster.
As Mrs Elizabeth Titterington she then married Septimus. She died in 1885 in Lancaster

Elizabeth Downham b 1849 Lancaster ,farther John Downham  mother Mary.
She married  Robert Page 1872 in Lancaster.  She then married Septimus.

Info from 1871 census Lancaster
Thomas Titterington  Occupation Silk Carder,  Wife Elizabeth,  Cotton Winder.

Robert Page  38  Roller Carder  Cotton Mill.
wife Elizabeth 33

1851 census Lancaster
John Downham, wife Mary ,  daughter Elizabeth  age 1.

1881 census Lancaster
5 Adelaide Street,  Elizabeth Titterington ,Head,W, 51, Winder  cotton.
son William 23. son John 21.

Thanks again

Plumbob
     

Hi Eric
Thank you for the info , I had her birth in Preston but not her parents names or an address, Im hoping for a few details on her life in Lancaster and her DOD if poss I have tried BMD indexes but no luck.

Re typing skills I'm a one fingerd Joe!!!