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Cork / Re: DYNAN/DINAN Cork area, Catholic and occupation Tailors!
« on: Thursday 08 May 14 14:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi Kiwichick,
Thanks for your message and all the info, it's exciting, I don't think I've had info for the correct time frame before and the Tailor/Dressmaker aspects are encouraging.
The fact that your Dinan/Dinnen's emigrated to NZ is interesting, I know that some of my earlier 'elusive' ones went to the US, and possibly Canada, so maybe if we do some good research and get lucky there maybe a link to find!

The male names known at that time in my line were John, Nicholas, Charles, Jacobus/James. Some 'potential people' (marrying in nearby churches, in similar years, with the same surnames at a time and place where those names were not common) were Michael, Thomas, Mary and Bridget.
Some of the Dinan/Dynan 'tailors', that I think maybe part of this line, who went to the US and Canada were called Michael and Thomas.

I'm trying to think of anything that could help...
Although I've mainly concentrated on Co Cork and in particular Cork to try and find these Dynan/Dinan's, I have always known that they could come from Co Clare. It's just a family tale about 'Harbourmasters of Cork' that makes me focus there..and that could be misleading!

More recently, I was told by a records office in Ireland that there were Dynan's who were Timber Merchants and that some were on the Board of Commissioners for the Harbour, unfortunately I can't remember the dates for this, but I have written notes somewhere!
The creative angle in your family is also interesting as my line was very musical and creative also, but that might be something.. or just a coincidence!
Thanks for all your info, I think as people respond maybe we can build up enough to start to find the lines between them..here's hoping!
Thanks and Best Wishes.


 

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Cork / Re: DYNAN/DINAN Cork area, Catholic and occupation Tailors!
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 22:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi Shane, Thanks for your speedy response, its not the best news but thanks for explaining why I'm finding it so difficult. I'm starting to think I'll just have to accept that that's as far as I can go with them.
 But then again... do you know of any gravestone inscriptions for Cork that I may get some joy from? I believe they were Catholic.
 I think maybe..possibly... they came from the Queenstown/Cobh area but it maybe wishful thinking, family tales just mention a 'Harbourmaster of Cork' as some relation but not necessarily with the Dynan surname even and I've no idea of a date for him-I've tried that route with no success also!
If John b. 1806-12 and Nicholas b.1822 were part of a large family, is there a way to find Dynan's who were Tailors in subsequent years in that area? As presumably they apprenticed to relations for that trade...I just keep trying to think around the problem!
Thanks again Shane.
Does anyone else have Dynan ancestors who were Tailors in the Cork area?
I do hope so, thanks.

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Cork / Re: DYNAN family....and Harbourmasters of Cork?
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 21:39 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much, I'm sorry if there's been a massive delay in my thanks I've only just found your very kind response and info, I will get onto it straight away- Thank you.

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Cork / DYNAN/DINAN Cork area, Catholic and occupation Tailors!
« on: Tuesday 24 July 12 21:19 BST (UK)  »
Hi, I've posted on here before but I am still struggling with my Irish genealogy! So I'd love some help with finding the birth and parents of John Dynan b. abt 1806-12 believed to be in Cork, he was a Tailor by occupation, married at the Cathedral in Manchester in 1827.
 Other names that maybe useful in isolating them are;
 Nicholas Dinon b abt 1822 Ireland (likely a brother) also a Tailor by occupation, he is a witness at John's daughters baptism in 1842, he marries in Bolton Le Moors near Manchester in 1850 and his father is listed as John Dynan 'a Tailor' (I have considered that John b 1806-12 is his father but I dont think he is due to their ages and his birth in Ireland). Nicholas dies in abt 1854.
So hopefully that means 'their' father was John Dynan-a Tailor-so at least two generations of Tailors and more to come!
 John Dynan b.1830 Wales from 1841 census, or possibly England, son of John b 1806-12. It looks like he travels to USA in 1848/9 with a Mick Dynan both born abt 1828-1830, maybe brothers or cousins and both listed as Tailors on the manifest.

I've tried everything I can think of many times with no success but wondered if the 'Tailor' occupation could help. Is there a site with Tailors in Cork in the early 1800's to try and find their father?
I'm having problems finding Nicholas anywhere before the baptism in 1842, I can't find him on any 1841 census at all, any ideas of where to look next would be great.
Sorry to waffle on, just keep trying to re visit all angles...any help would be wonderful.
Thanks

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Cork / Re: DYNAN family....and Harbourmasters of Cork?
« on: Sunday 04 March 12 17:27 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Suds,
Sorry about the delay in responding and also the different account name...I've had issues with forgetting my passwords and therefore accessing the system, but thanks for your help so far.
I'm wondering if a few of the same Dynan family came to the Manchester area together but I can't link them other than by similar dates and area! So Mary could well be one of John's siblings but I don't know how I'll find out for certain.
At John Dynan's daughters baptism a Godparent is Nicholas Dinan, on looking for Nicholas Dinan I have found a wedding in Bolton, Lancashire to Mary Summers in 1851 and they are together on the 1851 census in Bolton. On the marriage details it says Nicholas is a Widower (at @ 29yrs) and by occupation a Tailor and his father is John also a Tailor by occupation- this is a very positive link to them being the same family as my John was a Tailor too so maybe three generations or still just two if Nicholas is his son....but I think he's too old to be really.
This could be they are brothers and their father is John Dinan/Dynan (new piece of info) or that John is the father of Nicholas and he was attending his sisters baptism rather than his neices.

Hope this extra info may help to identify this family.
Thanks.

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Cork / DINAN John born @1806 CORK IRELAND
« on: Sunday 24 January 10 19:41 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
I've just joined and I'm hoping someone will be able to help me with my search for JOHN DINAN born @1806 Ireland, believed to be from the Cork area. He appears in England on the 1841 census with a wife from Wales and children, the eldest born @1935 in the Manchester area -my ancestors.
 My parents and I have been looking for him for YEARS!!
The only info we have that may help find his family in Ireland are family memories of him being related somehow to a Harbourmaster of Cork ?cousin,?brother etc. I dont know any year or name for this person but presumable between 1806 and 1935.
When he left Ireland for the NW of England its possible that his brother or cousin travelled with or after him. Later somewhere between 1841 and 1851 these two just left their families for the USA and fought in the American Civil War, with John believed to have died there.
Does anyone have a JOHN DINAN @1806 and ?another DINAN who left Ireland in the ?1830's and were related to the Harbourmasters of Cork?
I'd be delighted if anyone could help in any way, I've tried to contact the Harbourmasters of Cork before but with no success, though I shall try again.
Thanks and here's hoping. Best Wishes, Lyndylooking


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