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Australia / Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« on: Saturday 04 October 25 02:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi thanks for checking on Ernie.  Considering his age he may have not been billed on his own, just a guess of course.  He seems to have come into his stride in later years 1910-1912 and onwards.

I will contact the National library as they hold electoral rolls 1913, 1915, 1916, 1917, 1919 on microfiche, see if someone there will have a look for me.

I will also have to contact them as they seem to have quite a bit of information on Entertainers/Theatre etc.

Maybe nothing specific on Ern but who knows.  The hunt continues.  Thanks

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Australia / Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« on: Saturday 04 October 25 02:35 BST (UK)  »
Apologies maddys I called you Sue I think I need a cup of tea, a bex and good lie down as my mother used to say.  LOL

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Australia / Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« on: Saturday 04 October 25 02:33 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue I was thinking more of overseas newspapers to see if there were any entries for Ernie for the missing years previous to 1908 in WA.

Theres something called Gale? re the newspapers I think.  Anyway I don't know what's happening with my library card!  Maybe it needs updating.  I was using it during CoVid though.  All good Dianna

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Australia / Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« on: Friday 03 October 25 21:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi thought I would just put in to the mix from the 1913 Electoral rolls.  We didn't get that far I don't think.

I do have Ernie and Adeline living at 40 Clisdell St. Surry Hills in 1913 from their daughters birth certificate

I tried yesterday to log into the State Library eresources so I could check out (possibly) more newspapers than what is available on Trove to try and find Erns possible movements, under that name WHITE (or??).  Anyway that didn't work out as I was locked out and couldn't get back in so looks like I will have to use the "Ask a Librarian" option.

Onwards and Upwards and it's been great the progress that has been made.  Thanks Dianna

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Australia / Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« on: Thursday 02 October 25 06:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi Neale1961.  Yes you are right!!  His enlistment say's C OF E as well.  I must have been thinking of something (some one else).  Hard to keep all this straight.

Hi Sue I will enjoy reading through this article.  Thanks

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Australia / Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« on: Thursday 02 October 25 04:27 BST (UK)  »
This is from 1889 the stealing from Dr Sly.

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Australia / Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« on: Thursday 02 October 25 04:14 BST (UK)  »
This is the record with "MAHOM'T".   If that is supposed to be "Muslim" I doubt that he was (not a true believer anyway) as Muslim men do not drink Alchohol or have Tattoo's from my understanding.

So Samuel Francis is telling the Authorities a lot of fibs.

Again we don't know if he may have come to NSW as a Servant to a family.

He did make reference to a "country man from Hindostan" when he was accused of stealing a ring I think.  He said it was given to him by his Countryman.

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Australia / Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« on: Thursday 02 October 25 03:48 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sue re the Hindi, I'm not sure.  I know he used to call is wife Sarah "memsahib" which is a term of respect I believe to a (white?) woman.

I would have to gather more information about that.  Which is like trying to pull teeth.  LOL.

I have two contacts in the family and I believe one of them Betty's Grandaughter is going to try and find some photos/etc.

She is the one who told me about the Hindi language.

Of course he could have picked this up from one of the other performers who were Indian OR if he travelled in India could have picked it up there.  So many theory's

The religion situation (with Samuel Francis) is all over the place. 

I cited three? different ones ie WESLEYAN, RC and Mohomat??  I will have to find that record again.  I think it was the 1884 Conviction for Samuel F.

The records I have seen re BDM'S suggest that the WHITES were Church of England!

Their ethnicity could have been originally English.

Yes it is hard to pinpoint.  I thought the Fitzeralds may have been Catholic OR Ernie was adopted by Catholics (and kept his real name WHITE) OR what other reason.

He was left at the door of the Catholic Church??? Newtown, Marrickville (ONLY guessing)

I don't see evidence that Ernies aunty too him in.  Also her child/children baptised C of E. in Redfern


The only anomaly is the brother of HOPE WHITE who died in Qld was buried in the Catholic cemetery there.

Hard to sort out I know.

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Australia / Re: ERNEST HOPE Acrobat
« on: Thursday 02 October 25 00:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi Neale
  Thanks for that!!  Alway's something new with this guy.  It's confusing as when it say's before whom, the name on the conviction sheet doesn't seem to match the newspaper.  Wonder why? Many thanks Dianna

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