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i went to the records office today and found out the following ( need to write this in brief so  i remeber )

kellys directories

1890 Weed . George lived at A house called HOLLYBANK ( ours see 1903 )
1894 No mention of house current name 'Montlucan'
1898 As above ( although my old house is mentioned ther very cool :-)
1903 Collingridge at property called HOLLYBANK , recored at our property no. 34 in the 1901 Census with warehouse at 14 ladys lane
1906 Collinridge still called HOLLYBANK in kellys
1910 Now noted as no. 34 and resided by JAMES Homes (as also per 1911 census)
1914 Thomas Collingridge has moved his warehouse to St johns tannery Greenough yard , Bridge street
         James Holmes has Premises ( boot makers ) at Rambler Works Clarke Road
1920 34 Kingsley road is still James Holmes
1924 Fredrick Clarke
1928 Fredrick Clarke
1931 Mrs B Clarke ( maybe widow)
1936 ELMER Wm . J   ( thats how it was wrote )
1940 As above.

so i know nothing about any of a George Weed , Fredrick Clarke or ELMER Wm . J

CENSUS
I have ran out of credits for my census things but in the 1901 census holly bank is on there. could anyone tell me more details on george weed?

1910 DOOMSDAY BOOK.

James Holmes House owner and lives there. also owns a plot directly behind my house in oliver street upon which our garages (2 story stables ) are. A man is noted as living in this building by the name of what could be a C , g or similar B Taylor

Maps show the stables were built inbertween 1886 and 1901 old-maps.co.uk

PHOTO
I also found a photo under K of our Hour C 1900 ish.Taken from Alongside  Bradford house ( since demolished replaced with the 70,s flats on the road ) it looks along the road to our house.
Also som of bradford house too.
Its very small but was took by a CHARLES LAW , Photographer of 12 Bridge street.
Would love to see a full size image of this!!!!!!

One real mystery, our house i think had a makeover att some point re design even. Casement windows at the rear suggest 1920 onwards as does the front porch doors. Maybe the house was renamed then... But it allready had a number by now. AND also the chiselled out name montlucan is on the same stone as the date 1883. so is it likely a new stone frontage would have a build date reinscripted?
Or maybe that was the name beteen 1883 and 1890? I have nothing between these dates.

Thats it for my trip to the records office they did say the library has lots more photos but they are shut so onto the bank for a look at the deeds next i think!!!
really want to see some building plans etc  , they must be drawings somewhere!!!!

 

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The Common Room / Re: Correct nomenclature for Counties (!)
« on: Friday 24 December 10 21:26 GMT (UK)  »
not 100% sure of its re;evence but people always ask why northampton isnt in the north. the reason i belive is sounthampton and northampton were both call hamptune ( or similare ) and to aviod confusion we have a north and south variation to there same names.

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sandy your a wealth of knowledge and a great help!!!

J

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jus a question in the 1881 census the houses are adressed as names in a list but the scedules are not in numerical order.
if they were put in order would it go along the road as such?

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o.k. eversly is no.4 (double fronted childrens home )
then there is a sigle bay terraced house no. 2

maybe white elephant / kingley park hotel could be adressed as part of kingsley park terrace?

no 1 kingsley road is on the other side of the road first house past georges avenve ( going towards kingsthorpe )

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under kingsley park hotel?

it was only called the white elephant because after the race course closed it stood empty hence the nickname

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yes , lizzie , it guess it could , i had thought of that but just assumed oliver street would have its own listing!!
back to re counting the houses on my map again!!!
i guess what i need is an 1881 map at the point of the census  poss be something with the deeds ( when i locate them lol)

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hi. i think moving this to the northampton board will be a good idea.

last night i tried to match the house names from 1881  to nowadays numbers (walking down the steet) , still have quite a few to go. Think lots have been changed etc etc.

thing is in old maps from 1883 -1887 there are 14 houses / buididings on it ours included. but the date on our house is 1883.
On the 1883 censuus there are 14 inputs for kigsley park estate.

cross referncing the census with the old map i read it like this

first house is jn between harbo rd an welforn rd. next is gipsy lane this is the farm house ,
12 houses for kingsley gardens ( still there now by same name near bethany homestaed)
5 inputs for kingsley road.these buildings can be seen at would now be the top of georges avenve)
then kingsley park estate runs from whats now tinas shop junction  road to the white ele ( occupation of man selling beer ) then across the road for the last entry a police man. poss that house on the corner was a police house?

I did see a house between tinas shop and the first house with a date on the wall of 1883 that isnt on the 1883 map though.

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gipsy lane , kingsthorpe  appears in the 1881 census i found , but has 1 entry against no name.

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