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Monaghan / Re: McDowell, little detail,maybe impossible
« on: Wednesday 27 January 10 23:13 GMT (UK)  »
The paper and ink used those days plus the handwriting often lead to records being hard to read, often blotches occur etc...Some are works of art!

Whether he was born in Glaslough is impossible to say but the birth is recorded at the church they attended. Just like today if you take someone living in Fremantle on way to Perth Hospital and they get as far as Cottesloe when the baby is born, does that mean he is from Cottesloe?

Yours may have gone to a friend's house etc... As for what he worked at, there were many trades, smithy, gardener, farmer, carpenter, cooper. etc

As for marrying in Co Down, that would normally ( even today) be the case. They marry in girl's church!  It is possible to get further back in time by research but this can get very expensive and in many cases unfruitful and a waste of money. You are now in 3 places Cootehill in Cavan, Tedavnet/Tydavnet in Monaghan and Co Down.

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Ireland / Re: Shaw Family
« on: Tuesday 26 January 10 16:57 GMT (UK)  »
Well you never know, it might turn up something on those left behind. (if any).

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Ireland / Re: Shaw Family
« on: Tuesday 26 January 10 15:56 GMT (UK)  »
Have you looked for them in the 1911 census?

Just put in the surname and select Co Meath...or Mayo...  http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

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Cavan / Re: Catholic church records - Shercock
« on: Tuesday 26 January 10 15:30 GMT (UK)  »
Not much hope..Full civil registration of Births, Marriages & Deaths only started in Ireland in 1864. Protestant ones 1845. Some RC (very very rare) did keep some sort of notes but legally weren't allowed to. If you have enough details you might get lucky and be able to get deaths in the parish for them.


Googling Shercock should get general info on the place itself!

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Monaghan / Re: McDowell, little detail,maybe impossible
« on: Tuesday 26 January 10 15:11 GMT (UK)  »
Many people from Monaghan moved to Belfast, often for work. There could be many reasons from extended family, end of leases, work, college education so circumstances are individual!

Glaslough is only a few mile from Tedavnet.

My g/aunt worked in Dungannon and cycled home every w/end to Monaghan. People moved around more than is thought!

Cootehill in Cavan is also a reasonable distance from Glaslough, so they moved around a bit. Samuel could have been a coachman or a drover and so would have travelled to other estates, people on different estates knew each other and even football matches were arranged between different estates by the workers, these often met up at market days too.

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Monaghan / Re: McDowell, little detail,maybe impossible
« on: Tuesday 26 January 10 10:54 GMT (UK)  »
Not impossible by any means!  I recently did Samuel Grey/McDowell research for someone and indeed your McDowells were from Cootehill, which in fact is just over the county border into Co Cavan.

I did note by error  (too many Samuels!)  that on 9th Oct 1826 Samuel McDowell, Cootehill, Co.Cavan, Married Mary McCall, Derrynagan witnesses  were William Bewley + John Bothwell at Tedavnet Church.

While he may have been Church of Scotland, very often their records were kept by C of England (now C of I) as they were the official record keepers. Tedavnet records are fairly handy to get but you won't get much further back in time than this with church records.

Hope this helps in your research.

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Monaghan / Re: McElnea Family Killymarly Monaghan
« on: Wednesday 20 January 10 11:06 GMT (UK)  »
As you are only in Tynan you could take a trip to Monaghan, there are graves in Ballyalbany and the families still attend First Monaghan Presbyterian Church.

The census returns will get you a good few family units, parents, children etc.

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Monaghan / Re: Searchable Records For Co monaghan
« on: Tuesday 19 January 10 22:31 GMT (UK)  »
In general, you'd be lucky to get back that far with church records, some do but many don't..Most people got married in the girl's parish but they may have then attended a different church depending on where they lived after marrying, so searching for their children etc may mean looking elsewhere, they may even have moved again to another parish or county.

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Monaghan / Re: McElnea Family Killymarly Monaghan
« on: Tuesday 19 January 10 22:23 GMT (UK)  »
There's only 51 returns for all of Ireland


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?surname=McElnea&exact=&firstname=&county=&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=100

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