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Hi Sueter, do you know what year this photo was taken and can you put names on any of the people?  Thanks PCDL!

Hi Seanod, there's another thread on this site I came across recently (cause there was a reference to Patrick Doyle).  The guy that posted was looking for info on an Albert Brock (who married Patrick Doyle's widow, Louisa, in 1928).  I got some information on her/Pat and their family which I put up last night also.  Take a look here;
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373655.0.html

Louisa's maiden name was Herbert and she was from Scotland.  You're right they do look alike and he could be a brother, but I don't have any further info than what I posted (yet anyway).  I've been searching the 1911 census to see if I can find the right Doyle family but with no luck - I want to find out where they grew up.  I still have some stuff to go through and hopefully I'll find a clue there.  I did find a death notice for Sean Doyle in the Freeman's jounal which mentions Sean's late father (another Patrick of Bray, Wicklow) but I have been concentrating on Dublin up to now, so maybe that's another avenue.

I was just wondering have you ever heard of people purposly giving false information in the census?  Strikes me that might be something that could have happened in 1911 to frustrate the authorites, but I don't know if there's any substance to that notion.

I'm loading part of a photo which I just have a copy of.  I don't know what book it's from but it came with the rest of the stuff on the Doyle brothers.  The caption says that it is a picture of "a woman with her child outside Mountjoy jail while her husband is hanged - 1921"  I believe this is Louisa Doyle with her daughter Kathleen in her arms on the day of Patrick Doyles execution (I'm comparing with another known photo, and the child is the right age/size etc.).  It struck me that the man immediately to the right of the child looks very like one of the men pictured in Kilmainham photo number 3 posted by Kristof (2nd from left back row).  Anyone else see it?  In any case, I don't know who it is.

CH Burning - As part of the mountain of paper I've just gotten hold of are copies of the "Freeman's Journal" for the days immediately following the attack.  You all may be familiar with these already so I'll just say that there is some great coverage and photo's, particularly in relation to some of the more recent posts on this thread.  For example, there's a photo of a body being loaded into an ambulance, there's another photo of the prisoners with their hands up that was posted a couple of pages previously (though it is from the rear and not possible to identify the men, but there are 5 of them in this picture).  There's also a photo of an Auxillary with 2 "captured" bicycles left behind (maybe he's taking them away to do the Flann O'Brien test to determine who the owners are!)

Hi Rob, I've just recently started looking into the history of Sean and Patrick Doyle and found out that a cousin of mine did a school project for her leaving cert on this last year (she's a lot younger than me!).  Anyway, as part of her research she got various documents related to the two brothers from several sources (eg. Dept of Defense, Allen library, Pensions Dept. etc.)  I've gotten hold of copies of some of it.  While I don't have all the actual documents relating to the information you're looking for, the Dept of Defense supplied a summary/cover letter detailing documents/correspondence in relation to Patrick Doyle that they have (mostly to do with requests for medals, widows pensions, education grants for kids), which allows me to piece together some of the info you're looking for, which I will list below.  Some other info can be found in a book by Tim Carey "Hanged for Ireland - The forgotten Ten" published by Blackwater press (ISBN 9781841315478);

1. Louisa married Pat Doyle in 1916.  Her maiden name was Herbert.  She was from Glasgow (from book).
2. First child born 1917. Chistened Catherine Constance (after Constance de Markievicz) but was called Kathleen. (from book).
3. Second child born 1919 (Patrick).  Died of pneumonia 1920. (from book).
4. Feb 27 1921.  Twin girls born (Eilish and Louisa Patricia).  Louisa Patricia died 12 March 1921 in her mothers arms on Berkely Road while returning from Mountjoy prison following first/last visit to Pat before execution (she was buried in Kilbarrack on the morning of Pat's execution). (from book - except Ailish is not named........that came from my mother).
5. Louis remarried in Oct 1928 (Albert Brock) (from Dept of Defense cover letter).
6. There's also a reference in the DoD summary of a letter from Kathleen Doyle-Bolger , dated 13th of July, making a request for an army pension (which seems to answer your question about whether the children changed their name to Brock - looks like they didn't).
7. My mother thinks that Louisa and Albert Brock did not have children but think that they may have adopted a child called Betty?
8. I've uploaded (I hope) a photo from the book of Louisa and Kathleen (and baby Eilish).  If it doesn't work and you'd like the photo I can email it to you.

That's all I have - don't know what became of Albert Brock but Kathleen Doyle-Bolger died sometime in the early eighties as far as I know.  If there's any specific questions you have, let me know and I'll see what I can find out - I've been driving my mother round the bend with random questions lately and I've figured out the more specific I can be, the better.

Hope this is of some help!