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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Harry/Henry Pilkington Wilson
« on: Saturday 24 November 12 11:53 GMT (UK)  »
I have a Henry Pilkington Hayward born about 1838 in Macclesfield, East Cheshire, Cumberland, England. He and three of his brothers (Frederick William Hayward, Charles Edwin Hayward, and Horatio James Hayward) migrated to Auckland, where they set up shop as furniture makers and coffin makers (and later undertakers ;D).

I can't find a Henry Pilkington Wilson in these lines, but if you look for Henry Pilkington Hayward's father John Hayward (born 22/2/1789 Turton, East Lanc, England, died 24/5/1855, Jesmond, Newcastle-on-tyne, England) married Margaret Williams (b.abt 1803-d.25/11/1854) you may find a 'Pilkington' surname somewhere. I'm guessing up the Margaret Williams line somewhere. This may then have started the ‘Henry Pilkington Wilson’ line.

Added later: This fits with the carpenter/joiner trade, and coincidentally CE Hayward and HP Hayward went bankrupt too! ::) ::)

Good luck!!

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Ronald Kennedy, adopted child
« on: Friday 01 June 12 12:43 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Elli - yes, we were very happy to get this info. The father was shown on the records to be making payment of 7/6 per week, with a signed agreement. I guess this means that the name might be the real one. Mary stayed for six weeks after the birth, and then left the Home. The child was left in the care of a nusing mother, who was the Mary Jane Kennedy who later adopted Ronald. An 'agreement' was signed prior to Mary's admission to the Home ... I assume this was an agreement to give the child up for adoption following the birth. Would this be correct?

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Ronald Kennedy, adopted child
« on: Friday 01 June 12 12:23 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Althea, I shall follow your advice.

An added bonus today was a response from the Salvation Army archives office in Wellington. They were able to provide a copy of the record of Mary's time at the Maternity Home, and entered in the record was Ronald's father's name! Whether this is correct or not is now another avenue of investigation!

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Ronald Kennedy, adopted child
« on: Thursday 31 May 12 13:45 BST (UK)  »
Great news!! I was successful in an application to BDM for a "pre-adoptive" birth certificate for Ronald Kennedy, which showed that he was adopted at the age of 4 months. Unfortunately (and not unexpectedly) his natural father's name was not recorded. :(

Now, googling his mother Mary's full name shows that after giving birth to Ronald out of wedlock in 1903, she married in 1906 and had a few more children to her husband. Mary's grand-daughter is presently seeking information on a genealogy forum about her grandmother, so I guess in fairness to her family research I should make contact with her and let her know of this skeleton in the closet. I should, shouldn't I? :-\

Now a question to the genealogists ... when recording Ronald's birth (I use Legacy 7.5) how should I record his surname? Up until now he has been recorded with his adopted surname, as I knew of no other. Now that I know his mother's surname (being the name he was originally recorded under) should I change to this one? Unfortunately I cannot imagine that I will ever find his natural father's surname. It will be likely that I can trace back his ancestry on his mother's side. :)

Any advise will be very much appreciated. ;)

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Ronald Kennedy, adopted child
« on: Wednesday 04 April 12 08:59 BST (UK)  »
Hi all, and thanks for your input. I will certainly contact the Salvo's and also BDM for a 'pre-adoptive' birth certificate. Cross fingers.

Again, I will keep this post live to let you know how it eventuates.

Cheers - Bugly

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Ronald Kennedy, adopted child
« on: Tuesday 03 April 12 12:50 BST (UK)  »
I received the birth printout for (grandfather) Ronald Kennedy, which blew away a few family myths on his background.

From the birth printout, Ronald Kennedy was born on 10 March 1903 at 14 Thompson Street, Wellington. His birth however was not registered (at least not registered under THIS name) until 24 May 1921. Ronalds parents were listed as James Kennedy, labourer, of "Nainai, Lower Hutt" and Mary Jane Kennedy, wife of James Kennedy, also of "Nainai, Lower Hutt". The column between the 'Father' details and the 'Mother' details, normally showing when and where married, and previous issue of existing marriage was simply notated "Adopting Parents".

Papers Past at http://www.paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=EP19011130.2.66.6&srpos=4&e=-------10--1----214+Thompson+Street-- shows that 14 Thompson Street was a Salvation Army "Maternity Home" ... but was it an orphanage too?

Would there be any way of tracing 1903 records to find birth parents (or mother) of Ronald? Clutching at straws, I know ...  :)

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Hmmm ... I received the death printout for Ronald Kennedy which showed his parents to be James Kennedy and Mary Jane Kennedy (nee Beatty) of Wellington. So this divorced him from the Duncan/Alexander Kennedy line at Canterbury.

I then asked NZBDM for a birth printout, but I will post that info on another thread, and close this one off. ;)

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Duncan Kennedy, Wainui sheep farmer
« on: Wednesday 14 March 12 12:41 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks very much Beg, that gives me a few leads to work on now. I'll then get closer to following Alexander's children ... I believe that his youngest son Ronald was our grandfather. The other children of Alexander may have been Duncan, Jane, Mary, Robert and Margaret.

I posted off to NZBDM today a request for the death printouts for Duncan (d.1904), Alexander (d.1914) and Ronald (d.1964), and also the Cyril Roy Kennedy birth printout. (I already have Ronald's birth printout). Cyril was the son of Ronald and our father, and died in NSW in 1994. This hopefully will tie the whole line together!

I'll keep this post live for a bit, and let you know if the death printouts confirm the lineage.

Cheers - Lou

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Duncan Kennedy, Wainui sheep farmer
« on: Monday 12 March 12 10:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Beg – Thanks for that, looks like we’re winning!

Last night I think I found Margaret (wife of Angus) (edit: whoops ... wife of Duncan!) in Papers Past: http://www.paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=TS18960916.2.17&srpos=1&e=--1896---1896--10-TS-1----0kennedy+cooper--  I have no idea who in 1896 would have been connected to a “Cooper” … a bit early for the husband of one of the grand-daughters. The PP reference back to “Wainui Bay, Akaroa”, and her “eightieth year” is too strong a link to ignore though. I wonder where Edgeware Road was? May have been a hospice of some type.

I think I found Angus hiding in the Horsley Downs cemetery, and Alexander in the Timaru Cemetery. So with your success in locating Coll, Mary, John and Ronald, that all of them. Our Kennedy line descends down from Alexander, and his youngest son Ronald. He is a bit of a mystery too. It almost sounds like the passenger list of the “Indiana” showed the ages of the Kennedy family to be younger than they actually were. I guess this happened often back then, to gain “immigrant points.”

Beg, thanks for your assistance in all this, it is very much appreciated!

Cheers - Bugly

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