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Devon / Re: Hannah BROOKING 1807
« on: Thursday 06 October 11 16:47 BST (UK)  »
Yes, I am Henry Baynham and Hannah Brookings' G3 grandson, the line being:
Henry Baynham = Hannah Brooking
Elizabeth Mary Drake Baynham = Frederick Paull
Maria Prideaux Paull = William John Partridge (first cousins)
Marjorie Partridge = John Davidson
John Davidson = Jill Griselda Robertson
Colin John Davidson


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Devon / Re: Hannah BROOKING 1807
« on: Saturday 01 October 11 21:04 BST (UK)  »
Henry Baynham
   According to Elizabeth’s marriage certificate he was a Lieutenant in the Royal Engineers. No military record has been located (I looked up The Army List.) Private communication gives his birth date as 1 December 1801 – this could have been in India/Ceylon. Private communication gives his death as 20th December 1833, at Plymouth.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,354087.0/prev_next,prev.html has death date as 19th Dec 1833.
Henry's parents were George Baynham, a captain in the 4th Regiment of Foot and Caroline nee Pridham,second daughter of John Pridham, a Spirit Merchant in Plymouth, Devon. They married in 1801, in Plymouth. Following their marriage, the couple moved to the East Indies. In 1803, Captain Baynham was in the Ceylon Regiment of Foot. Allegedly he died in 1803, but this is to be confirmed. His wife definitely died 1st May1804  in Calcutta. [ http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/FullDisplay.aspx?RecordId=014-000028012 “Under this stone lie the remains of Caroline, the wife of Captain George Baynham, of H. M. Ceylon Regt. of Infantry, (the best of wives and the best of mothers) she died on the 1st May 1804, aged 22 years.; South Park St. Burial Ground, Calcutta”]

Loose end:
A Henry Baynham Scott Brooking was born 28Feb1834. He entered King William’s College , Isle of Man, in August 1846, leaving in Midsummer 1849.

 Elizabeth Mary Drake Baynham
   Born in Plymouth about 1832 (1851 Census), the daughter of Henry Baynham (#46) and Hannah Brooking (#47). In 1851 she was living with her mother and sister Constance Brooking Baynham at Marsh Cottage, Egg Buckland, Plymouth. At her marriage to Frederick Paull (#22) she was living at 44 Tavistock Place in the parish of Charles, Plymouth. She and Frederick were married in the parish church 1 August 1857, and the wedding was witnessed by her sister. Maybe her parents were overseas at this time?
   The Drake portion of her surname is from her great grandmother, Elizabeth Drake.
   Her children included Maria Prideaux Paull (#11) and reputedly Henry Baynham Paull, a person who certainly existed. I have not yet been able to find any census record.
   Frederick Paull was a surgeon in the Bishop’s Wearmouth district of Durham, where Maria Prideaux Paull was born in 1863.
   Date, place and cause of death are unknown.
James Foster Brooking (
   Born in Newton Ferrers, he was the younger brother of Rear Admiral Samuel Brooking (1754-1834), and was the Lord of the Manor(tbc). He married Anna Bickell (#95), daughter of George and Anne Bickell 1n Tavistock , 5th July 1802, their children being Ann (31 March 1803), Samuel (3 March 1805) and Hannah (#47) (31 December 1807). Place, cause and date of death are unknown.

5.3 Hannah Brooking
   Born in Newton Ferrers 31 December 1807, the third child.
   
Born in Newton Ferrers in 1807, she married Henry Baynham (#46) 29November 1826 at Charles The Martyr, Plymouth, Devon. According to the 1851 census they had at least two daughters, Constance Brooking Baynham (1829) and Elizabeth Mary Drake Baynham (#23) (1831), both born in Plymouth. These births are not recorded in parish registers.
In 1851 Hannah was a widow, living with these two daughters as a “Landed Lady” in Marsh Cottage, Egg Buckland. There were no servants in this establishment. Her whereabouts in 1841 and1861 are unknown, but she allegedly died in Bath, Somerset in 1870.



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Lancashire / Re: Boarding schools
« on: Monday 01 February 10 09:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there
There was a grammar school in Warrington in 1891 because my ancestors were there in the census.  I think it might be  called St Thomas Boteler C of E High School founded in 1582.  If not then there were two:-)

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« on: Saturday 09 January 10 10:11 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone know who owned Elizafield and the other land that our ancestors farmed?  I've been trying to get a feel for the period as I thought it would help us in finding other records that might connect some of the missing dots.  Was there a laird?

There seems to have been a major famine in 1690s although the book I read said Dumfriesshire wasn't as badly off, then there were the Jacobites cropping up every couple of years......

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« on: Friday 08 January 10 06:46 GMT (UK)  »
I got the info from my aunt and she concentrated on the direct line so I must admit I haven't actually seen any of the original birth details.  They were apparently all born at Elizafield and the date info I have is
John b 1825 - ?
Martha 1828 - 1850 Typhus
Margaret 1830 - 1849 Typhus
Joseph 1830 - 1897 Died Australia
Janet 1838 - ?
Annie 1842 - 1849 Typhus
Robert 1846 - ?  (if this is Robert Hutchison Kerr he died in 1890)
Mary 1848 - ?
Martha, Margaret, Annie and their mother Mary all died of typhus either the last couple of weeks of Dec 1849 or the first couple of weeks of Jan 1850.  They are all on the same page in the OPR.  Their grandfather James died on 24 Jan so it must have been a truly horrifying time for everyone.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« on: Friday 08 January 10 04:13 GMT (UK)  »
This sounds great.  If we can find a birth for one of them to get parents names we may have our founding Kerr family for the area.  That would start making Kerr USA's idea of moving beyond the 1700s more feasible.  On names, you'll probably not be surprised to find that once Joseph came to Australia he followed the family tradition and had Martha, Mary, Thomas, John, Joseph also Annie but that was his wife's name.  The only name we don't seem to have continued here is James.

I've just been completely sidetracked by Robert Hutchison Kerr.  If I can prove he is the youngest son of Thomas Kerr and Mary Hutchison then these photos and in memoriam notes I have are him sending the family news and photos to his brother Joseph in Australia, which I love the idea of!  I've just ordered his death cert to see.  Also he moved to Cheshire and seems to have done well from himself as his wife's in memoriam note says wife of R.H. Kerr of Spark Hall, Stretton, Near Warrington. 

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« on: Thursday 07 January 10 10:28 GMT (UK)  »
Bound to be related!  A couple of other photos taken by Birtles in Warrington one of Mary Anne Smith Truda Kerr age 14 with Robert Hutchison Smith Kerr age 9 years.  He's in full regalia.  Where do the Hutchison Kerr's come in?  I don't suppose that Robert Hutchison is the son of Thomas Kerr and Mary Hutchison?  He would be the right age and that would mean he had sent the photo to his brother Joseph in Australia.   I also have a photo of Joseph.  The family definitely seemed to be into photographs.  I just wish they had been into labelling them as well!

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« on: Thursday 07 January 10 08:34 GMT (UK)  »
As I'm stuck at home with the flu I thought I'd sit down with that large sheet of paper I mentioned and map all the Kerrs and associated families on this post.  I was hopelessly mixed up by page 5!  I like the idea of Tabitha and Martha Moffat as sisters.  Then given the way things seem to work in the area, George Kerr (Tabitha's husband) may be another brother for James and William.  I did a quick search through the OPR on Scotlands People but no luck.  Will keep trying.

While I was going through this post I noticed mention of the Hutchison Kerrs.   I have an old Kerr photo album given by my g grandfather to his mother Annie wife of Joseph Kerr b Elizafield 1835 who came out to Australia.  Among the very few photos that are labelled are two of Robert Hutchison Kerr taken by R. Wilson 121 High Street, Dumfries.  One of them has written on the back of it "ever your affectionate brother R. Hutchison Kerr.  There is also an in memoriam notice   Robert Hutchison Kerr who departed this life October 8 1890 aged 45 years.  Happy to scan the photos if anyone wants them.  Would love to know where he fits in.  Not bad looking with wonderful mutton chops and full kilt.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: Cleughbrae , mouswald
« on: Tuesday 05 January 10 03:16 GMT (UK)  »
While trying to tidy my study I found an old letter on Kerr research my aunt did which might help you.
I don't know where all her info came from but I know she was writing to cousins in the UK.
James Ker b. c1718 at Cleughbrae, d. 3 Dec 1789 age 71 buried  Cleughbrae. 
He married
Martha Moffat b. c1727 died 4 April 1802 buried Cleughbrae
they had 7 children and three of their sons James George and John married three Tweedie girls.
John Ker M. Jean Tweedie b. c1757
George Ker m. Mary Tweedie b. c1755
James Ker m Janet Tweedie b c1771
she thought that Mary and Jean were sisters and that Janet may have been a sister or niece.
James Ker and Janet Tweedie appear to only have had the one child who is my ggg grandfather
Thomas Kerr.  His first wife was Mary Hutchison who died before him and was the mother of his 8 children and Agnes Forsyth who survived him and died in 1895.
I thought I might get an extremely large piece of paper, print out all the pages of this post and see if I can map the Kerrs from the information.  Should keep me amused for a week or two :)

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