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Cavan / Re: BERRY
« on: Saturday 23 October 10 17:16 BST (UK)  »
Sue,
   Sorry for the delay. Got busy with work. I did discover a new date for you: Alex. Berry m. Arabella Story on May 22, 1801.
--source the Jack Pringle Collection Box 2 at the London Society of Genealogists.
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Contact me there.
--George

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Cavan / Re: BERRY
« on: Thursday 21 October 10 14:20 BST (UK)  »
Sue,
   Thanks for clarifying for me the relationship between the Berry & Irwin families. I found the following interesting 1853 court record involving the Late Thomas Berry Coroner. Thought I'd pass it on, especially because one of the jurors was "T. Pringle".

   The 1772 marriage bond record I found for Mary Pringle & Thomas Berry, of BerryMount, referred to George Pringle (of Mulnagerman) as her parent or guardian. I had thought he was her father, but he infact might have been a close relative, which makes it possible for this Mary to be the d/of John & Lorton (Wilson) Pringle, if they were deceased. Or we might be talking about a different Pringle family.
My relatives George & Robert Pringle lived at Clifton Hill, Killeshandra District, Co. Cavan, which put them in the same area as your Berry family.
--George Russell, Listowel, Ontario, Canada

1853 newspaper article:
Source: Co. Cavan; Ireland Newspaper Abstracts: Anglo-Celt newspaper
RECORD COURT, CAVAN.
Friday, Feb. 25, 1853.
(Before Chief Justice Monahan.)
The Right Hon. the Lord Chief Justice of the Common Pleas took his seat on the bench at ten o'clock this morning, and proceeded (sic) immediately with the appeals.
James Berry, appel. Patrick Lee, respn.
This was against a decree obtained in the lower court for 8l. wages owed to Lee by appellant ..... brother, the late Thomas Berry, Esq., coroner.
Patt LEE examined -- Witness deposed that he had been employed by the late Mr. Thomas Berry at 11£ per day, and that he allowed his wages to run on until it amounted to 13£., 19s. 10d. ; that on the death of Mr. Thomas Berry, his brother, the appellant deposed of the effects ; that he (Lee) applied to Mr. James Berry for the wages owed to him and received in answer to his application the sum of 3£ which left a balance of 10£. 19s . 10d ; appellant said that ought to satisfy him, but he replied he would look for the remainder ; he (Lee), in order to avoid law, offered to take 8£. in lieu of what remained due, which, he supposed, is the reason why the Barrister gave him the decree for the 8£. only ; respondent cannot read or write ; he kept a wooden account (laughter), which he got transcribed.
James BERRY, Esq., appellant, on being examined, stated, that his brother, the late Thomas Berry, died intestate ; that he left very little property to meet his debts, and that he (appellant), at the request of the widow and children, had two auctions held of the effects of deceased ; that the money received at those sales was paid by him to the widow and creditors ; (account of the disbursements produced) ; that, in consequence of having had to do with the affair, he was obliged to pay some of the creditors a considerable sum of his own money that had no money or goods of the deceased to meet respondent's demand.
The Chief Justice affirmed the decree on the ground of appellant having "intermeddled" with the property of the deceased.
The following gentlemen were sworn on the jury in this case: Alexander CLEMENGER,
T. PRINGLE, Francis M'CABE, David KELLETT, Wm. Moore BLACK, Anthony KILROY, David GRIFFITH, Wm. FARIS, Richard O'REILLY, John BEATTY, Alexander KETTYLE(sic), and Thos. PHILLIPS, Esqrs.

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Cavan / Re: BERRY
« on: Wednesday 20 October 10 12:58 BST (UK)  »
Sue,
  Thanks for replying and sending those websites. I know you are busy at the moment. I am having trouble following it in places. Who did James Berry, son of Thomas & Mary (Pringle) marry?
--George

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Cavan / Re: BERRY
« on: Tuesday 19 October 10 01:27 BST (UK)  »
Sue,
  You mention Alex Berry m. his cousin Mary Ann Irwin 1833.
How are they related.
Who are Alex's parents & Grandparents?
I have a Mary Pringle m. Wm Irwin of Curry Mahone, Co Cavan 1748.
--God Bless, George

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Cavan / Re: BERRY
« on: Tuesday 19 October 10 01:19 BST (UK)  »
Sue,
  I was interested in your info on Thomas Berry b. 1747 m. 1772 Mary Pringle d/of John Pringle

I am researching the Pringle family of Cavan, Ire
Recently I found their marriage licence & bond:
  "Marriage Licence & Bond ---Berry (Thomas) and Mary Pringle granted =21st Sept 1772. Now all men by these presents that we Thomas Berry of Berry Mountain and George Pringle of Mulnagerman, Gent, both of the Co. of Cavan and Dioces of Kilmore are held and firmly bound unto the Right Revd. Denison Lord Bishop of Kilmore in the sum of the two hundred pounds to be paid to the said Lord etc etc, by these presents sealed with our seals and dated this 21st day of September in the year of our Lord, 1772.
   The conditions of this obligation si such that whereas Licence of marriage is granted by the above Lord Bishop to the above Bound Thomas Berry and Mary Pringle of the parish of Drumlane in the above Dioces. If therefore there appears not any impediment by reason of affinity consanguity precontracted or otherwise that may hinder the said marriage and if they have obtained the consent of their parents and guardians (if any they have) and if they don't proceed to the said marriage clandestantly but public in the face of the church where one of them resides that then the above obligation be nul and void otherwise to remain in full force and value in law.
    Signed sealed and delivered Thomas Berry in the presence of George Pringle, Will Fox."

George Pringle is named above as a parent or guardian of Mary Pringle. Do you recall the source for Mary's father being John.  Her brother Robert lived at lived in Clifton Hill, Ballyconnell, Co. Cavan.
God Bless, George
  G

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Joyce,
   When I saw your connection to William Russell (1765-1848), I wanted to contact you.
  I am also descended from William, but through his 2nd marriage to Margaret Wands.
   Wm. Russell (1765-
   Wm. (1820-   who came to Ontario, Canada in about 1842
    Joseph E. (1855-
    George E. (1896-
     Edward G. (1925-
     George E. (1955- --myself
I'd like to exchange info with you.
--George

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