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Europe / Re: Antoni Melzer from Prussia who immigrated to Australia 1855
« on: Friday 10 June 16 08:39 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all of your help.

Yes, I'm sure the gaol records are from Antoni and not his son Antoni Charles. There are quite a few entries written up in the Police Gazettes and also the Cootamundra Herald, one article in particular quotes Antoni asking the witness of him stealing the sheep to not tell anyone as he's almost 70 years old. Which in 1896, Antoni would have been nearing 70 having been born in 1828. Some of the articles written about the sheep stealing also refer  to his son Antoni. Sounds like he was well known in Cootamundra for many years!!

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Europe / Re: Antoni Melzer from Prussia who immigrated to Australia 1855
« on: Friday 10 June 16 07:58 BST (UK)  »
Oh ok! That's good to know!

So, does that mean if I purchased the record from here, I would possibly get more information?

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/searchhits.aspx?table=Naturalisation&ID=30&query=Melzer&frm=0

If not, where could I find the application for naturalisation?

My other question  ( thanks so much for your help) is, there is also an option to buy a picture of his mugshot on the NSW Archives when he went to Young prison in 1897 for Sheep Stealing. It says the picture includes the mugshot as well as details of the convictions. I wonder if it would also have his DOB... do you know? (I'll probably buy the picture anyway!). I feel like if I know his DOB I will at least be able to rule in or out, if he is the Antoni Melzer born in Tschentschitz Teplice on 24th February 1828.

Thanks again.

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Europe / Re: Antoni Melzer from Prussia who immigrated to Australia 1855
« on: Friday 10 June 16 07:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi Ruskie & JM,

Thanks for your replies. Yes, I feel as though there are a bunch of copied trees with regards to his parents names...

I have seen that thread on Ancestry and followed the ideas listed there but had no luck with any of those leads. I also noticed that another member stated that his naturalisation certificate said he was born in Hesobists, Westprussuen, but, my copy of the naturalisation certificate just says Prussia... I have a copy of his naturalisation certificate which states he was born in Prussia, was 43 years at the time & arrived on the Daniel Ross ship.

I also have a similar list of the passengers that you showed me the link too, but my copy has Antoni Melzer AS WELL as, the Antoni Mella that you've pointed out. Any idea why Antoni Melzer would be on my copy but not on the list you showed me?

I'll try and attach some pictures to show you what I mean... (its not letting me - saying the files are too large).

 I also had his and Marys marriage certificate transcribed and there was no parents on that for either Antoni or Mary.

I'll check out your link abput overcoming the blanks on the certificates. Thanks!!

Thanks again for all your help.

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Europe / Antoni Melzer from Prussia who immigrated to Australia 1855
« on: Friday 10 June 16 06:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone,

I am hoping someone may be able to help me, or give me some pointers in the right direction with my family history research. I've been trying to find information on this line for a long time with no luck. Just hoping some fresh eyes may be able to help! My GGG Grandfather, Antoni Melzer, immigrated to Australia in 1855 on the Daniel Ross from Hamburg. On the Passenger Lists, his place of birth is listed as "Grichnitz", Prusseun - the note written by those who transcribed this document says "Can find no town of this name". His death certificate states that he was born in Germany. He was born in 1828, according to his death certificate & his marriage certificate to my GGG Grandmother in Australia. He was in the local newspapers a lot and in one article, it mentions that he worked on the Olde River is Breslan (Breslau) Germany. (Which is now Wrocław, Poland).

His marriage certificate & his obituary do not mention any parents names.

In my research, I have noticed on Ancestry that many others have listed his mother as Elizabeth Gudoba, who was born in 1765, meaning she would have been 63 when she had Antoni - I just don't feel this is correct, and while a bunch of others have listed her as his mother, I can find no evidence of her being his mother...

I have, however, found on the Gedbas database, an Anton Melzer, born 24th February 1828 in Tschentschitz, Hsaunr (Teplice) (Now Czech Republic). His mother was Maria Josepha Melzer. There is no father listed.

I guess, my questions are:

1) Does anyone know where Grichnitz could be? Is there somewhere near Breslau or Tschentschitz that could be known as/written as Grichnitz? (Could there be any links between my Antoni Melzer born 1828 who came to Australia in 1855) & the Anton Melzer listed on Gedbas being born 24th Feb 1828.

2) Are there any census records (I've looked and can't find ) that would show his movements, around Breslau where the Australian newspaper he was in said he worked?

3) I'm trying to either link the two Antons or discount the link so I can move on.......!

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm struggling a little with trying to navigate some of the German/Czech/Polish Genealogy sites.

Thanks for reading,
Many thanks!!
Krista

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Kent / Re: Zechariah Foulser NICHOLAS - Middle Name Mystery
« on: Tuesday 22 December 09 11:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hi  Roger, thank you very much for your story and suggestions. This will definitely have to be something that I will look into... especially after Christmas. There are a lot of coincidences there though, it sure is a small world. We think that Foulser probably came from Zachariah's mother, sarah fowler (with mispellings and pronounciations etc), our Foulsers are probably still linked though (and the Zachariah is definitely a coincidence - do you know where Cornelius came from?). Thank you also for the information about the mothers maiden name... that is definitely an interesting concept to keep in mind for further research. I will definitely keep you posted on further findings. Thanks again, Krista.

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England / Re: Autuoun Surname
« on: Tuesday 22 December 09 11:08 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you to everyone who has replied. I will definitely look into all of these suggestions... Thanks once again, Krista

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England / Re: Autuoun Surname
« on: Sunday 20 December 09 22:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there, thanks for your messages... James was 70 when he died in 1904. And I have just noticed the death certificate says he was born in Devonshire, England and had been in New South Wales for 55 years... (it isn't clear but on closer look I'm sure that's what it says). Autuoun is written very clearly though, but the informant was his son in law which could definitely leave it open to mistakes... I am going to do a bit of a search now.

Thanks

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England / Re: Autuoun Surname
« on: Sunday 20 December 09 11:14 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you both for your replies.

Unfortunately I have limited information on this line. I have the death certificate for James Channon (John Channon and Ann Autuoun's son). He died in 1904 in Waterloo, New South Wales, Australia. As I have had difficulty with the name I have been unable to locate a marriage certificate for John and Ann. I cannot find any records for James Channon (their son) being born in Australia so I believe he would have been born in the UK. I unfortunately currently don't have access to a scanner, but the surname is clearly written on James death certificate autuoun (all lowercase).

I will have a look into Autoun as well right now...
Thanks again,
Krista

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England / Autuoun Surname
« on: Sunday 20 December 09 10:38 GMT (UK)  »
My GGGG grandmother was Ann Autuoun, she married John Channon, and they had a son James Channon. I am finding the name Autuoun difficult to trace. When you google is there is no results. I have a copy of the original death certificate of James Channon which states his mother as Ann Autuoun. Does anyone have any ideas of any different spellings, or even the pronounciation? I'm not even sure about how this surname would be pronounced so I don't even know what alternative names to search.

Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks, Krista.

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