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i have the sister phoebe from emerald ancestors father david and mother anne jane hamilton so i def have my connection to this couple

thanks ruskie i suppose it is possible i dont mind you butting in appreciate all the help i can get. but i know what you mean i tend to make things find to suit as well thats why i hope im looking at the right couple here.  i think i need to start getting some paper evidence to back it up i am gonna start at the council offices. do you need to make an appointment does anyone know or can you just turn up.

have also found agnes daughter of hamilton patterson i wonder is that just the two surnames as apposed to a christen and surname

of course i didnt look at the dates your right of course that would be impossible so many children in such a short space of time, are you suggesting then that david was married before i found on family search a david patterson christened 1837, father john patterson there was no mention of a mother for david in either pieces of information do you think i am looking at the right couple there couldnt have been to many people born with clotworthy in their name, doubting if i am looking at the right parents at all, if they got married in 1888 that would have made him in his fifties when they got married so it is possible that he had many children what do you think

i have that information from Alice's son who is now dead, i found Sarah Blain under Sarah colville from emerald ancestors who's father was Samuel and mother Mary Thompson, the same Samuel and Mary conville who where witnesses at the marriage of Elizabeth and David i hope I'm on the right tract. whats bothering you about all this cause i cant put my finger on whats not adding up for me like i said there is a story of a secret that apparently one of the females ran away with a footman, that's why i think that the middle name clotworthy is of such importance i just cant piece it all together .