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Hello Thomas Moore and Ann Bateman are my Great x 2 grandparents. He was a Brick Kiln Labourer. His Mother as stated was Elizabeth Moore, born about 1785, that is as far back as I have managed so far. Ann Bateman was born about 1813 West Wycombe, a Lace maker, Her widowed mother was Martha born about 1782 and I believe she died in 1848. I do not have any knowledge of siblings to either of these people so far.
Their son Charles and his wife Mary Ann Hobbs are my direct line. If you would like further details of the family feel free to ask. As I don't come on this site that often and may not know you have replied, please contact me at *
Regards Vita.
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Hi,
Boundaries have changed a bit parts of Berkshire & Oxfordshire have at times been in and out of Bucks, but Hampshire and Bucks do not touch, so it very unlikely to mix up these counties. However I can find No Jabez James on the 1841 census in Hampshire, there is on on the 1851 born Hampshire and married to a Maria, could not find him in 1861/71/81. His birth place looks like Bormois, Hampshire, but I have never heard of it, and if it did exist, it does not now, possibly it was misheard by the census taker.
Love Vita.

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Dear Debbie,

The Jabez born 1831 was a Sawyer, in1859 he married Ellen Cartwright, daughter of John & Maria.
Ellen was born in Little Hampden.
Now I can find no trace of Jabez, Ellen or her parents in 1861, but can trace them all on both the 1851 & 1871 census. However Jabez must of been around in 1859 if he married in 1859, so unless he went back and forth to Australia, (and considering how long the journey took back then, it is unlikely), it does not look like he is the right one either. So the mystery thickens, as to who the parents were of this Jabez Janes that went to Australia were. Do you know for sure his place of birth?

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I might have found a bit more on Jabez Janes family but no more on Jabez. I think his father was William Janes and his mother was Leah Parslow. There were 8 children, Alfred, Cornelius, Eliza, Elizabeth, Jonathan, Lydia & Mary Ann all born Loosley Row Princes Risborough Buckinghamshire. Does anyone have any info on the family? :) I wonder if anymore of the family came to Australia?

Hello again,
Did some more digging for you and found a little .
William & Leah Lived in loosley Row, Princes Risborough. William a Sawyer born around 1801 in Lacey Green & Leah a Lacemaker, around same time in Loosley Row.
Children with them-
Jonathan born 1828, Lydia 1832, Mary Ann 1835, Cornelius 1839.
1851 William & Leah also have 2 grandchildren with them- Celina Ridley born 1844 in Speen, & Amos Ridgley 1846 in Loosley Row. These are Elizabeth's children as she married Jesse Ridgley in 1843. No Jabez with them.
1871 William is a widower living with Henry James born around 1830, a grocer & Baker, & Henry's wife Mary, in Prices Risborough. Leah died  1870, William himself  died 1872.
In 1841 there is a Henry James also at same address, Jabez born 1831, Ann 1833, Caroline 1836 all born & living in Lacey Green, with adults Wiliam & Sophia Janes both born around 1806, he in Lacey green Sophia in High Wycombe. 1841 census does not give relationship, although the most likely is that they are all their children. So do not know the relationship between Henry & your William, there are quite a few Janes families in that area, so they may well all be connected.

Cornelius as adult.
1871 & 1881 living in Loosley Row.
married 1863 to Ann Bagnall born 1843 in Princes Risborough. they had 5 children, Albert 1863, Ruth 1867, Frederick 1867, George 1871 & Harry 1873 all in loosley Row. Ann died in 1875.
Cornelius remarried 1878 to Sarah Langstone born 1847 loosley Row. Cannot find any trace of the family after 1881, so possibly they did emigrate.

Jonathan Janes as adult.
a sawyer married a Mary born 1829 in Haddenham, Aylesbury. The best match for a marriage is to a Mary Steel, but that is in 1853 Kensington, London.
Their children were Lucy 1858, Frances (female) 1860 & Hannah 1863 all born in Prince Risborough.
1871 they were living Grubbings, Lacey Green.
1881 Frances was a domestic servant, living in at Beech Grove, Tring, Hertfordshire, Hannah & Lucy untraced.
Frances then married Joshua Brackley in 1886 Wycome. Joshua born 1856 Buckland, Aylesbury. He was a grocer & carrier, although by 1911 just a carrier.
They had children Florence 1887 & Clara 1889, both born Buckland, Clara became a domestic servant. Then sons Alfred 1894 & Gordon 1998, also in Buckland & Alfred became a woodman.
1891 they lived the Grocers shop, Little Twye, Buckland, Aylesbury, 1901 & 1991 living Buckland Common.
they als0 had Joshus Niece Annie Brackley & Nephew William Brackley, living with them.
Hope this helps.

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Hello,
Sorry he is not one of my Janes, and cannot find him on 1881 or 1891 census, so if he did return to England, possibly he changed his name.  I cannot find his application for a passport, to leave England, but the site I use does not cover 1850, but it does cover the rest of 1850's. I did find a Henry N Janes in 1856, I don't suppose that is helpful to you?
Regards Vita.

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Buckinghamshire Completed Look ups / Re: 1841 lookup please
« on: Sunday 02 May 10 18:28 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
I have a Mary & William Gray on my cousins tree, the children do not match your details, but they match the  message from "finch".
here are the details-
William Gray born around 1800 Aylesbury, a soldier then agricultural labourer. Died 1867 in the workhouse, High Wycombe, buried in Holy Trinity Church, Lane End, on 14 March 1867. Wife Mary born around 1803 died by 1841, children Henry born 1831 Lane end, a cordwainer (shoemaker). Charles born  30 Oct 1836 Lane End, baptise 26 Nov 1837 Holy Trinity, Lane End, also a cordwainer. William born Dec 1833 Lane end, baptised 29 Dec 1833 Holy Trinity, Lane End, Died 26 Aug 1834 Lane End, buried at Holy trinity, Lane End 29 Aug 1834.
Son Henry went on to marry Martha Carr and had 8 children, if you think they are your family please let me know and I will give you details.
Regards Vita.

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Hello
I have nothing much on you couple, Richard was a Baker.
I think you made a typo with some details, Richard, Catherine, Richard jrn, Michael & Georgian in 1841 were living in Bell Street, Henley. From BMD Richard died 1843 death registered in Henley & Catherine died 1847 registered in Henley.

Michael in 1851 was married to an Elizabeth in 1848, unfortunately she could be either Elizabeth Adams, Hopkins or Sheriff. 1851 they were living in Windsor Street, Uxbridge. Richard jrn I cannot trace, nor a John.

But I do have Georgina's details, you may well have all this, but no harm in writing it in case you don't.
Husband Thomas Barlow his family-
Son of William Barlow born around 1794 a labourer, married Martha and had 5 children
1st Betsy 1819 in Hambleden, she married William Meads born 1807 Hambleden a agricultural labourer, & had a daughter Sarah Ann Meads 1845 in Hambleden.
2nd Fanny born 1823 Hambleden, a lacemaker. married Mark Davis 31 oct 1852 at St. Mary church, Hambleden Mark born around 1828 place unknown, they had daughter Susanna/Susan baptised 4 Aug 1844 St. Mary, Hambleden, Susan was baseborn but parents later married 31 Oct 1852 in St Mary's and unusually Mark changed his name to Mark Davis Barlow. They had no further children as Mark died shortly after marriage. Susan went on to marry Willaim Barlow, I can give these details if you wish of thier children.
3rd George Barlow born 1829 Hambleden baptised in St. Mary's on 24 June 1829 He married twice to Martha Pratt 1851 & Elizabeth small 1864 with a total of 7 children, please feel free ask if you wish these details.
4th was Thomas himself, will come back to him later.
5th was John now Thomas & John were twins both born 28 aug 1833 Hambleden, both baptised 19 sep 1833 in St. Mary's, no more on John. As Thomas is given first I assume he was the elder twin.
Back to Thomas born & baptised as for brother John, married Georgina Isabella Hawkins 7 feb 1857 St Mary's, their 4 children were
1st  Catherine born 1858 Hambleden a lace maker, then servant by 1891 a dressmaker.
2nd  Harriett born 8 Feb 1861 Perrin's spring, Frieth, baptised in St. Mary's 17 March 1861 a kitchen maid in 1881 living in at 46 Bedford Square, St Giles, Middlesex, then she married someone with surname Heron but cannot trace & he died before they had children, 1901 widowed living 65 Devonshire road, Bexhill, Battles, Sussex, also with her is mother & sisters Clara & Ella.
3rd Rosanna born 13 Dec 1864 Southbrook, Hambleden, baptised St. Mary's 29 Jan 1865. A servant ,
4th Clara Isabella born 4 Oct 1868 Parmoor, Hambleden, baptised St. Mary's 15 Nov 1868 a Dressmaker.

Mother Georgina lived 1851 with uncle Thomas Burridge & his family in Spurgrove, Frieth, he was disabled Agricultural labourer, as he had loss a leg. At time of marriage Georgina was living in Parmoor, Hambleden. She & Thomas then lived in Perrin's spring, Frieth, 1865 in Southbrook, Hambleden, then by 1871 Parmoor farm house, Hambleden, they were still there in 1881, by 1891 Georgina was widowed & living 65 Devonshire Road, Bexhill, Battle, Sussex with as mention with Harriett.
Sorry I can trace no children for any of the daughters.
Regards Vita


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Hello again,
Sorry you put their marriage as 1827, so he would be 26, however that's a bit irrelevant as I cannot find him on the 1881 or 1871 census. Maybe they really did have a thing against their name, and used something else. If anything helpful does crop up, I will let you know.

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Hello, the Snooper,
Sorry I do not have any Radnage or West Wycombe records, but I checked my others, and sorry but nothing for either Florida or Britten, including different ways to spell them.
The only nearest detail I could find were marriages in High Wycombe a Susanna Brittin in 1713, John Britton in 1764 & Sarah Britton 1771. I do not know if you records go back far enough to find any possible connection to your family?
I did also look on th BMD and found some death records for Brittens in Bucks but they was only William Britten born 1801, died in Aylesbury 1882, Jonathan Britton of Kensington, born 1793 died 1877 in Abingdon, Oxford & Sarah Britton born 1847 died 1866 Eton, Bucks.
On census I found a Charles Florida born about 1817, a chair maker born High Wycombe, but could not find him on the 1841 census to find out his family or if there was any connection to the area in or around Radnage.
So the Brittens & Floridas either emigrated, moved from the area and gave wrong place of birth, died, or possibly used another name, it does happen. Unless they moved from the area long enough before the 1841 that those born in Bucks had died.
William & Elizabeth, I also found no trace, I tried any possible mistakes in name, but nothing, so I can only assume they emigrated, changed name, gave wrong place of birth, or the most likely, both died before 1837.
Again sorry I was no help, regards Vita.
 

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