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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: wood family of st stephens parish guernsey
« on: Wednesday 29 January 14 04:03 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Mr NewZealand

I found a shipping record dated 22 August 1908 for George H Wood (Single, Carpenter) and John H Wood (Single, Carpenter) who travelled 3rd Class together on ticket #276, they sailed on the vessel "Athenic", travelling from Plymouth to Wellington New Zealand.

The ages of these two is not noted on the transcription.

Could this possibly be the 2 brothers?

As you say George Wood does not appear on the 1911 Census, and I noted that John Wood does not either, which would fit in with their 1908 departure.

On the New Zealand BDM Historical Website (which is accessed through the Department of Internal Affairs website) there is a death in New Zealand (record does not state where in NZ though) of George Henry Wood in 1951 aged 77 years.  The record would need to be purchased for more information) (Ref # is 1951/23996)

You could Direct Message me for the Website link if you like, not sure if I can post it on here.

This age fits perfectly with your George Henry Wood who was born in 1874.

Henry Wood was still in Guernsey in 1911 with his wife Helen and 3 children, Ralph (5), Edna (4) and Edith (2). He was described as a Managing Clerk of a Fruit Growers.

I found a shipping record on 23 December 1920 for a Henry Wood who left Southampton for Auckland New Zealand.  He was born in 1879, was aged 41 and described as Retired.  There were no family members travelling with him however.  The Vessel was the "Rimutaka" and he travelled 2nd Class

A year later on 10 November 1921, Helen Wood and her children Ralph H Wood, Edna L Wood, Edith N Wood, Muriel R Wood and Phyllis J Wood left Southampton for Wellington New Zealand on the Vessel "Ruahine". They also travelled 2nd Class. Their former Guernsey address had been given as "Le Vauquiedor" St Andrews, Guernsey"

Younger brother Clifford Wood  was single and living with his parents Thomas and Elizabeth Wood at the time of this Census.

The 1911 Census states that Thomas and Elizabeth Wood had 9 children of which 4 had died by the time of the Census and 5 were still living (living being George, Annie, Henry, John and Clifford I am assuming).

Annie Eliza Wood was working as a Companion/HouseKeeper for Mrs O Halloran at the time of the 1911 Census.  She was still single.

Clifford left for Wellington New Zealand on 13 September 1912 on board the "Tainui", he was single and a Clerk.  He travelled 3rd Class.

I searched for information on Lillian Wood but did not find anything past the 1901 Census. As Thomas and Elizabeth Wood are quoted as having 5 surviving children, it would appear that Lillian died between the 1901 and 1911 Census, unless John Wood died after 1908 and prior to 1911??

Hope this helps.



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Hello Lashem,

I've had no joy with my search but spotted the following on the 1861 Census today which may relate to your family?

If it's the right family, had his widow re-married to a Mr Hall?

1861 Census at Jenkins Dale, Chatham, Kent
Thomas Hall (42) B 1819 Shoemaker B Chatham Kent
Kezia Hall (36) B 1825 Wife B Chatham Kent (looks like Kezia, even original transcript unclear)
Henry Sheminant (11) B 1850 Stepson B Chatham Kent
Emma Sheminant (10) B 1851 Stepdaughter B Chatham Kent (Blind)
William Sheminant Hall (9) B 1852 Son B Chatham Kent
Frances Hall (8) B 1853 Daughter B Chatham Kent

*Original Census transcript says 'son in law' for Henry Sheminant and 'daughter in law' for Emma Sheminant, but Stepson/daughter look more credible to me.

The surname is really muddled up on the 1851 Census, but I'm pretty sure it's Kezia, Henry and Emma here and the address ties up also

They are called Shenwart here but the original transcription looks more like Sheminant to be honest.  How they derived Chard from Kezia I don't know.

1851 Census at 8 Jenkins Dale, Chatham, Kent
Chard Shenwart (26) B 1825 Married Laundress B Kent
Henry Shenwart (1) B 1850 Son B Chatham Kent
Emma Shenwart (2mths) B 1851 Daughter B Chatham Kent

Later Censuses show this Henry Sheminant as Henry Thomas Sheminant - so could well be your Henry's son?

I also found a Mariner's record for your Henry Sheminant born 20/4/1814 in Guernsey which states that he first went to see in 1829 as a 'boy'.  That he had a dark complexion, brown hair and hazel eyes. 

He was first ticketed as a Mariner in 1845 #18165.  When next working the record stated that he 'was residing in Guernsey'

The record does not state which Parish in Guernsey he was born in, so a bit of a dead end there.

On the BMD UK Index I found that Henry Sheminant married Kezia Hinge Q1 1849 in Medway Kent (so the Kezia on the 1861 Census must be his Widow with her new husband Mr Hall)

Hope this is of some help to you
   

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: ALFRED JOHN ARTHUR ROWE BORN ALDERNEY
« on: Sunday 12 May 13 01:37 BST (UK)  »
Hello Weirdfish, if you pop in here and make another posting I will be able to send you a Personal Message.

I would love to know more about Alf's second marriage to Bertha Hall.  I noticed that 5 children were born from this union and that one son died in 1962, I would love to know what happened to the remaining siblings.

Do you have a date for Alf and Bertha's Wedding?  My own Great Grandmother Alf's first wife died on 3 March 1921.

Look forward to hearing from you.

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Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Re: WILLIAM PERCY ALLEN - MY BIGGEST BRICKWALL!
« on: Sunday 14 October 12 20:49 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Cath151.

We think from family legend that William may have adopted the surname Allen when he was 17/18 and joined the Militia in Leicester.  So it's more of a brickwall than first believed.

I have traced him from 1897 onwards from the time he joined the Militia, then the 2nd Leicestershire Regiment. 

He married in Guernsey in 1904 and his 3 eldest children were born there.  He died 1/2/1916 in Southampton and his youngest child was born posthumously in March 1916 in Southampton.

Thanks for checking though.

This may need to go into the COMPLETED section as it's too much of a mystery to unravel now that his birth surname is in question.

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Leicestershire Lookup Requests / Re: WILLIAM PERCY ALLEN - MY BIGGEST BRICKWALL!
« on: Saturday 13 October 12 21:22 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Julieg

Thks for your post here and the two direct messages you previously sent asking me if I would like to post on your Netley Website.

I've now just responded via DM with some further information for your website.

Kind Regards

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: John Haley 1799?
« on: Sunday 25 March 12 22:13 BST (UK)  »
I had a look at the original Census transcripts, 1851, 61 and 1871 state Guernsey as his birth place.

Hope that helps.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: dora leech
« on: Friday 10 February 12 21:45 GMT (UK)  »
I thought I'd check the UK Free BMD site, checking from 1911 to 1931.  I found only one Dora Leech who married an Edwin Airey in Sunderland District Q2 1917.

They had two children also in the Sunderland District
(*)

Dora Airey nee Leech Died Q1 1937 in the Sunderland District aged 48 years.  Year of birth 1889.

May be a long shot, but you never know

(*) Moderator Comment: details removed as there is a possibility that these 2 children are still alive

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Henry PERKINS - Guernsey
« on: Thursday 29 December 11 23:10 GMT (UK)  »
There on no BMD records for Guernsey online, but I did notice on Ancestry UK website a family tree on Henry Perkins.

It seems the family was only in Guernsey for a few years before moving to Nottingham, Derbyshire and then Manchester.

His Father was John Henry Perkins Born 3/12/1773 in London. He married Ann Harvey (Born Staffordshire)  17/12/1792 in Stockport Manchester

He Died in Manchester 21/1/1837

Children:
Eliza C Perkins Born 1793 (place of birth not stated)
Henry Perkins Born 18/1/1796 Guernsey Baptised 28/1/1796 St Peter Port Guernsey
John Perkins Born 17/3/1797 Guernsey
Edwin Perkins Born 18/9/1798 Nottingham
Charles Perkins Born 5/3/1800 Nottingham
Emma Perkins Born 25/9/1803 Derbyshire
George Perkins Born 4/5/1805 Derbyshire
William Perkins Born 1806 Manchester
Charlotte Perkins Born 24/10/1808 Manchester
Harriet Perkins Born 1813 Manchester


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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Christina & Agnes Stapleton
« on: Monday 26 December 11 00:58 GMT (UK)  »
You may well have the following information, but there are a couple of records on The National Archives website relating to David Stapleton.

One is under reference ADM 196/76 David Stapleton, Paymaster (this document dated December 1847), and there is also ADM 45/32/792 David Stapleton, Paymaster who died 17/1/1854, Will attached.

There is a small fee to download this data from the National Archives, but it would be well worthwhile to obtain the Naval Record of David Stapleton to ascertain dates and places.

His Burial on 20/1/1854  on 20/1/1854, aged 44 years is recorded at
Parish/Church/Congregation - BALLYMACELLIGOTT
Area - KERRY (COI)

Burial of Christina Stapleton on 11/7/1869 aged 49 years at the same location.

Both are described as "of Tralee"
This from the website Churchrecords.IrishGenealogy.ie

Just a thought.

Kind Regards

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