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Title: Gardiner's of Ledbury
Post by: CazL200 on Saturday 22 October 05 18:30 BST (UK)

Hi,
I am looking for info on the Gardiner family from Ledbury & surrounding areas.
I have so far
John Ernest Gardiner married Annie Mowbray (no dates as yet)
Ernest John Gardiner (b 1909, d 1986) Homend, Ledbury married Nancy Willis (b 1909 d 1982) Brickyard, Colwall in 1928.
Any help would be much appreciated.

Title: Re: Gardiner's of Ledbury
Post by: Tati on Sunday 23 October 05 07:51 BST (UK)

Hi CazL200,

FreeBMD has the following marriage:
Bromyard Registration District
June quarter 1907
John Ernest Gardiner to either Mary Jane Bowen or Annie Mowbray.

Through the census returns, there is a John Ernest who looks promising:

1881 
RG11/2581 Folio 114 p. 15
Wellington Heath, Ledbury
You can look it up for yourself at www.ancestry.co.uk
John Gardiner, head, 40, Ag Lab, b. Ledbury
Mary, wife, 39, b. Worcestershire Suckley (?)
John, son, 2, b. Ledbury

1891
RG12/2051 91 5
Ledbury Herefordshire
John Gardiner, head, 53, Ag Lab, b. Wellington Heath Ledbury
Mary, wife, (48?), b. Worcestershire Suckley
John Ernest, son, 12, scholar, b. Wellington Heath Ledbury
Allan Albert, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Arthur Harry, son, 3, b. do.

In 1901, John is a servant (assistant pork butcher) in Ledbury RG13/2471 14 20
Rest of family are still in Wellington Heath RG13/2470 94 5
 
Tanja  :) 
 

Title: Re: Gardiner's of Ledbury
Post by: Tati on Sunday 23 October 05 08:12 BST (UK)

And to take this lie a little further back, here's John sr. in 1871
RG10/2682 101 16
Ledbury Wellington Heath
Elizabeth Gardiner, head, wid, 60, Farmer 6 acres, b. Wellington Heath
John, son, unm, 33, Ag Lab, b. do.
Thomas, nephew, unm, 59, Retired Farmer, b. Basbury
Mary Laughton, Granddaugh, 7, scholar, b. Ledbury

and 1861
RG9/1810 64 3
Ledbury
William Gardiner, head, 66, Publican, b. Bosbury
Elizabeth, wife, 53, b. Ledbury
John, son, unm, 22, Ag Lab, b. Ledbury

Tanja  :)

Title: Re: Gardiner's of Ledbury
Post by: CazL200 on Tuesday 25 October 05 23:52 BST (UK)

Thanks for the info Tanja, I will check it out.

One thing that is puzzling me is that on Ernest John Gardiner's (b1909) birth certificate it states that his father was John Ernest Gardiner, occupation pork butcher, but on his marriage certificate it states that his fathers name was William Gardiner, occupation butcher. Could John & William be the same person do you think?

Title: Re: Gardiner's of Ledbury
Post by: Tati on Wednesday 26 October 05 08:11 BST (UK)

I hate answering here because you never know... It's tempting to say somebody made an error on the marriage cert. They obviously should be the same person, huh?
Perhaps next time you have too much money you could check what it says for the marriages of his brothers? Or, if you have a GRO copy, have the original church record checked?
Sorry, I'm no help!

Tanja  :)
   

Title: Re: Gardiner's of Ledbury
Post by: CazL200 on Wednesday 26 October 05 20:09 BST (UK)

Thanks anyway Tanja.   :)