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Title: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: Corky44 on Saturday 22 October 05 16:46 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any knowledge of Owen Owens who married a lady by the name of Jane Roberts.  They were both from Amlwch.  Owen was a mariner.  Owen was born in 1850 and Jane was born between 1857 and 1861.  They both moved to the Liverpool area in the 1880's.  Any information on these peole would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Saturday 22 October 05 17:09 BST (UK)
This is an excellent site

www.amlwchdata.co.uk with census details
Title: Re: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Sunday 23 October 05 12:30 BST (UK)
1901 census

RG13/3507 Folio 81  Page 52
West Derby 
Wavertree   
 
Address 28 King Street, Garston  Lancs 

Jane Owens 40 hd,  wid, Amlwch, Anglesey  (Charwoman)
Margery Owens 5, dau, Garston, Lancs
William Owens 6, son Garston, Lancs 
Elias Owens 2, son, Garston, Lancs, Garston     

cannot find any proper match in 1891

Have you these families on both census from Amlwch 1861 +?
Title: Re: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: Corky44 on Sunday 23 October 05 19:48 BST (UK)
Hi

Thanks for the info.  That is the correct family but the problem has been that we have never been able to find them on any other census.  We feel certain that they were living in the same area at the time of the 1891 census but unfortunately we haven't been able to find anything.
Title: Re: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: CarolBurns on Thursday 12 January 06 13:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Corky
Just checked my 1871 census and this is what I have found for Owen Owen(s)

1871 CENSUS - AMLWCH

ADDRESS: MARKET SQUARE - ODDFELLOWS ARMS

JANE OWEN   -  HEAD  - 57 Y - WIDOW - INNKEEPER - b LIVERPOOL, LANCS
ANN E OWEN - DAU - 25 - WIDOW - b AMLWCH
CATHERINE OWEN - DAU - 23 - UNMAR - b AMLWCH
OWEN OWEN - SON - 21 - UNMAR - MARINER - b AMLWCH
GRACE OWEN - DAU - 17 - UNMAR -  b AMLWCH
OWEN J EDWARDS - GRANDSON - 3 - UNMAR - b AMLWCH
OWEN O OWEN - BOARDER - 38 - MARR - RETIRED LAWYER - b LLANSADWRN

I will keep looking for Jane Roberts and see what I find for her

Hope this helps in some way

Carol
Title: Re: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: welshy21 on Saturday 16 December 06 16:27 GMT (UK)
Yes,Owen Owens was my great grandfather, he lived in King street, Garston.  i am his grandson through his first wife.

Let me know what information you require
Title: Re: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: Corky44 on Saturday 16 December 06 17:20 GMT (UK)
 :)

Thank you for your response Owen Owens was also my husbands great grandfather.  Although we have a copy of his death certificate we have very little information from prior to the time that he was living in Garston.  We believe that he was from Amlwch and that at some point he may have worked there in the mines.  He later became a mariner and eventually moved to Liverpool.  Any information about him from his time in Wales would be appreciated.  In particular I am trying to ascertain his date and place of birth and details of any other family members.
Title: Re: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: welshy21 on Saturday 16 December 06 18:02 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: welsh lady on Monday 18 December 06 20:15 GMT (UK)
Dont know if youve now found the family in 1851 living in Market Place Amlwch H0107 Piece 2521 Folio 406 .
Owens one years old Parents Owen Owens age 42 Clockmaker and Mother Jane you already know.If you want the entry let me know

Best Wishes Welsh Lady
Title: Re: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: johneowens on Saturday 10 December 11 13:18 GMT (UK)
I own a clock by Owen Owen handed down through my family from Garston. My understanding is that Owen Owens operated as a clockmaker in Garston/Liverpool but only for a year or 2 c1850-1.

Do you think this is the same person?

Best

John
Title: Re: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: Corky44 on Friday 30 December 11 15:05 GMT (UK)
 :)

Hi

I think that there is a strong possibility that there is a link.  Owen Edward Owens was a clock maker from Amlwch in Anglesey.  He died in March 1857.  There does appear to be  a family link to Garston in Liverpool.  In fact Owen Edward's son Owen William Owens, who was my husbands great grandfather eventually settled in Garston.  We have been able to locate most of the baptisms of Owen Edward Owens children in the Amlwch Parish Register.  The one that I have still to locate is that of Owen William Owens who was born in August 1850.  If the family where living in Garston rather than Amlwch at that time, it may explain the absence of the entry. 
Title: Re: Roberts and Owens family
Post by: johneowens on Monday 09 January 12 11:49 GMT (UK)
Many thanks, John