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Title: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Ringrose on Friday 21 October 05 16:49 BST (UK)

Have just returned from Sudbury looking at the streets my ancestors lived in in19th century. I would be very interested to hear from anyone researching the Prior or Piper families who were mostly silk weavers in Sudbury. By the turn of the century most had either gone to London or Colchester. THey wer e very large families  and I do have a fair bit if info so please contact.

Ringrose

Title: Re: Prior/Piper families in Sudbury
Post by: suffolk*sue on Friday 21 October 05 16:55 BST (UK)

What did you think of Sudbury?

 :)

Title: Re: Prior/Piper families in Sudbury
Post by: Ringrose on Saturday 22 October 05 09:06 BST (UK)

Hi  Sue
We saw Sudbury in the sunshine. A pity about all the traffic-could do with a by-pass.Enyoyed our walk round  and looking at some of the old buildings--gave a feel to the place. It probably meant more because I had so many roads etc to look at. Pictures of old Sudbury helped too. Glad we did not stay in the town but at Long Melford. I think 2 days was enough.

Ringrose

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Children on Sunday 27 November 05 04:24 GMT (UK)

Hi Ringrose,

My husbands ancestors the "PIPER's" came form Sudbury and the were both Silk Weavers.
Maria Wiffen married Stephen Piper 05 March 1838.
They had 4 children John, Henry, Robert and Maria.

Maria (Wiffen) Piper died 21 march 1857 and is buried at All Saints Church cemetery in Sudbury.

Stephen Pipers parents were John and Ann (Dread) Piper who were married 12 February 1797.
His parents were John and Mary (Griggs) Piper who were married 18 September 1756 at All Saint in Sudbury.

I have been trying to put all these Pipers, with their children into some kind of order.

Stephen Piper and his children left Sudbury in Suffolk on the 05 November 1857 on the sailing ship the "Persian". He and his family resided at Latrobe on the NorthWest coast of Tasmania and took up farming. He died 10 December 1902 age 90 years. Stephen Piper was my husbands G. G. Grandfather.

I am looking forward in hearing from you soon.

Take care

Wendy

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Ringrose on Sunday 27 November 05 14:52 GMT (UK)

There wer so many Pipers in Sudbury that I think there must be a link somewhere probab;y through siblings. Mine were silk weavers too and lived in Church St Gregory St and Cross St. George Piper b 1805 son of John and Elizabeth married Mary Ann Elvin in 1828 at All Saints. Thei children were  Geotge 1828,Alfred1830,Mary Ann(my link)1833, Hannah1834, Eliza 1836,Charles1840,James1842,John1849,William/Maria1847 and Harriett (d 1857 age 6)Alfred went to Glemsford and Charles to Great Bardfield.I do have some Piper records for All Saints and St Gregory and I may be able to help you.

Cheers

Ringrose

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Children on Tuesday 03 January 06 09:51 GMT (UK)

Hi Ringrose,  ;)

Sorry I haven't got back to you sooner than this but life for me got a little hectic before xmas as relations were coming that my husband hadn't seen in 30 years.

I had down that John Piper (who married Ann Dread) parents were John Piper and Mary Griggs, but now I am not quite sure.
John Piper who married Mary Griggs had a son John, but I  now believe that, this John Piper married Elizabeth Martin.

I also found out that Maria Piper lived in Cross Street and across the road is Church Street where All Saints is situated.

Do you have any info on the marriages of a George Piper who was chr. 26 Jan 1845 and his brother Charles Piper who was chr. 30 July 1845 who's parents were Thomas Piper and Hannah Hazle?

I think George's wife was Esther and Charles's wife was Sarah, but I dont know who they were apart from that or when they got married!

Most of my Piper attended All Saints and a few of them attended  St Gregory Church.

Would like to hear from you again soon, in the mean time take care

Wendy

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Ringrose on Tuesday 03 January 06 18:59 GMT (UK)

Although I do have a Charles and a George Piper  the parents were George and Mary Piper.who married in1828 at All Saints. I do not know any of the siblings of George --the link could be through them.They were all in the same area  Cross Street, Church Lane , Gregory Street. They must have known each other. We probably need to go back a generation. Your lot may have been aunts uncles or cousins.

Ringrose

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Pretoria on Monday 20 February 06 11:53 GMT (UK)

Hi

I have just found your interest in Pipers and wondered if anyone can help me.

My Great, great, great, great grandfather was John Piper who I know lived in Beyton as a blacksmith he married Susan Cornfield 19 July 1807 in Stoke by Nayland and died 24 March 1847 in Beyton
There is no reference to them in Beyton prior to him being there and wondered if they could have come from Sudbury.
I have still to check but have found a John Piper born 1773, St Gregory Sudbury whose parents were Thomas & Susanna. I know I am clutching at straws a bit but he had a daughter named Susanna!!!!

If anyone can shed any light I would be so pleased. My Father, whose family it is, will be 90 in april so trying to trace as much for him as possible

many thanks

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Ringrose on Monday 20 February 06 12:56 GMT (UK)

Hi Pretoria
My Pipers were the offspring of a George amd Mary Piper(nee Elven) All were born in Sudbury between 1828 and 1850.They were silk weavers. Georges parentage I believe was a John Piper and an Elizabeth . I think John was born in 1768 maybe in Sudbury. I also thinkhe remarried  after Elizabeths death in 1810 to a Hannah.There are so many Pipers in Sudbury and surrounding areas it is often hard to find the link you want.
Sorry to be of little use.

Ringrose

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Pretoria on Tuesday 21 February 06 16:27 GMT (UK)

afternoon

have discovered from marriage records that John Piper was given as Sudbury All Saints.
I know he was a blacksmith so maybe a journeyman blacksmith??

I have discovered that Piper seems to be a very common name in Sudbury so not very helpful.
Any ideas how I might track him down as I seem to have now hit a wall!!

many thanks

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: flexigel on Thursday 19 August 10 07:48 BST (UK)

Quote from: Children on Sunday 27 November 05 04:24 GMT (UK)

My husbands ancestors the "PIPER's" came form Sudbury and the were both Silk Weavers.
Maria Wiffen married Stephen Piper 05 March 1838.
They had 4 children John, Henry, Robert and Maria.

Maria (Wiffen) Piper died 21 march 1857 and is buried at All Saints Church cemetery in Sudbury.

Stephen Pipers parents were John and Ann (Dread) Piper who were married 12 February 1797.
His parents were John and Mary (Griggs) Piper who were married 18 September 1756 at All Saint in Sudbury.

Stephen Piper and his children left Sudbury in Suffolk on the 05 November 1857 on the sailing ship the "Persian". He and his family resided at Latrobe on the NorthWest coast of Tasmania and took up farming. He died 10 December 1902 age 90 years. Stephen Piper was my husbands G. G. Grandfather.

Hi Wendy,

I've just started on my wife's family tree, her paternal great grandfather Robert Victor Piper migrated from Tasmania to West Australia starting a new branch of the clan. I'm working on a Piper website where photos and information can be displayed, you can check it out via

http://www.gardfamilytree.com/index.html

I hope you can help me fill in the blanks

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Ringrose on Thursday 19 August 10 09:58 BST (UK)

Mary Ann Piper was my gggrandmother . She was the daughter of George Piper and Mary Ann Piper (nee Elven) who had married at All Saints Sudburynin1828. They had  George 1828,Alfred 1830,Mary Ann1833,Hannah1834,Eliza 1836,Charles1840,James1842,John1849,Maria 1847 and Harriett 1857.
Mary Ann Married Thomas CooperPrior in 1854 . She died of TB in 1861 having had 3 children. Her mother Mary was a silk weaver and died in 1881.I do have a lot more on the family which I may be able to get to you through your colourful website.
Ringrose

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Suffolk Mawther on Thursday 19 August 10 13:35 BST (UK)

Ringrose, we have been waiting for a by-pass in Sudbury for many years, I have lived in the area for 39 years and still waiting. 
The traffic does not get any better with the number of cars and lorries driving on roads never meant for such vehicles.

Have you had a look at
http://www.sudburysuffolk.co.uk/photoarchive/

this has some wonderful photographs of the area, particularly Ballingdon (All Saints covered this area of the town).

I do know the family who live in the old forge in Ballingdon Street - I am sure there is a photograph on the website - in case that connects with your journeyman blacksmith?

Pat ...

Title: Re: PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Clemmie on Tuesday 22 February 11 22:40 GMT (UK)

Very new to Rootschat but have been reading your comments on the Sudbury, Long Melford, Pipers with great interest :)

I too have a line of Pipers from Sudbury - Long Melford.

JohnPiper c1800 (Long Melf) and Maria Whittle
Henry Piper c1819 (Long Melf) and Constance Hardy
Thomas Piper 19 Oct 1851(Long Melf) and Sarah Sore
Harry Piper 15 Oct 1878 (Long Melf) and Mary E Quinn (Enniscorthy C Wexford)
Barbara M Piper 1925 (Kent) and Richard S Meynell 1915 (Sunderland)

Kind regards Clemmie

Title: Re: PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: Clemmie on Tuesday 22 February 11 22:44 GMT (UK)

Also, the Sore family will host a reunion in Long Melford for the second time in July this year.  If you are connected with my Piper/Sore family connection, please let me know and I will organise a chat about this.

Kind regards Clemmie

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: margaretbird46 on Tuesday 25 February 14 15:57 GMT (UK)

I am interested in a Sarah Piper the daughter of Edward Piper who married a Josiah Packwood at St. Gregory's Church, Sudbury on 23 January, 1785.  I am hoping that this Piper family is connected to the Piper family that lived in Ridgewell Hall, Ridgewell Essex.  Would also like to know if they are connected to the Chaplin family.
Margaret

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: pipera on Wednesday 28 September 16 04:25 BST (UK)

Stephen Piper was born 1773 Pentlow Essex England I am trying to locate his parents, if anyone knows please let me know.

Ann Dread is the daughter of John Dread and Mary White she was born 1774.

M 17 Aug 1765 at Long Melford, John died 22 Apr 1795 at Long Melford, while Mary died 19 Jun 1787 at Long Melford Suffolk.

They had 6 children, Mary, Susan, Harry, Ann, John and Zachariah Dread. They were all born at Long Melford.

Susan married John Webb, 26 May 1795 Long Melford.

I have done aspects of the Wiffen line back to the early 1600's.

HTH!

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: suffolk*sue on Wednesday 28 September 16 10:41 BST (UK)

Quote from: pipera on Wednesday 28 September 16 04:25 BST (UK)

Stephen Piper was born 1773 Pentlow Essex England I am trying to locate his parents, if anyone knows please let me know.

What evidence do you have that Stephen was born in Pentlow, I couldn't find a baptism for him there.

Title: Re: PRIOR/PIPER families in Sudbury
Post by: pipera on Thursday 29 September 16 09:31 BST (UK)

Sorry, his father John Piper was born 1773 at Pentlow Essex England. He died in 1855 Long Melford.He married Ann Dread 12 Feb 1797  The Parish Of Melford, Co. Of Suffolk, England.

Stephen his son was born/bap 12 Apr 1812 Long Melford.

I have the heritage of Maria Wiffen back to the 1600's on a number of her lines.