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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: lynbee on Friday 21 October 05 11:16 BST (UK)
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Hi all,
I have run into a dead end with all of these branches of my family.
1) Robert Stewart b.1824 and his wife Margaret (Nee Kearns) b.1828, sailed from Glasgow on board the "Resolute" on the 14/3/1865 and arrived in New Zealand on 21/6/1865. They had with them 6 of their children, Emily 18
Margaret 15 (my g-grandmother)
Peter 13
Robert 11
Alexander 9
William 9 months
This is all that I know about them.
I have since discovered that the Stewart family lived in Kilbarchan, Renfrewshire, Scotland. They had 3 other children in Kilbarchan, Jane, Mary, & Jane who all died before their emigration. They then had another son, Douglas Brown Stewart who was born in Auckland, NZ, after their arrival.
2) James Wallace b. 1826 Connor to William Wallace & Catherine (nee Mc Kane)
Arrived in New Zealand in 1846 aboard the "Levant" with the 65th Regiment. I know nothing of his descendants or what happened to him after he sought discharge from the army in Wanganui, NZ in 1849
Still have found nothing on James
3) Isaac Eggenton/Eggerton, b. 1826 to James Eggenton/Eggerton and Marguerite/Margret (nee Webster). Arrived in Auckland, NZ aboard the "Mandarin" in 1843 from Parkhurst Prison. Cannot find a birth place, but know from the Prison Census in 1841 that he was not born in Hampshire.
Have lots of info about the NZ end....still trying to find where he was from.
4) William Wyatt. My father, William Henry Geo. Wyatt was born in 1908 in Rotherhithe, London. His birth certificate gives his father's name as William Wyatt, Butcher's Assistant. His mother was Alice Mary Wyatt (nee Gibbons). In 1910, his mother married Walter Butterworth and then had 2 children Hetty, (possibly Alice Henrietta) and Joseph. Later she married again to William (Bill) Fryer.
I cannot find anything on my father's father William or his stepfathers or his siblings.
I wonder what happened to them all?
Sorted. Have found my rellies! Thankyou!
I am also interested in finding any info on James Kearns (Kerns) and his wife Mary Breen and their 3 children, who arrived in NZ on the "Ramilles" in 1847. James was a Fencible (possibly with the 50th Foot Regiment) Where were they from? Sorted, Thankyou all.
Any help or tips on these would be greatly appreciated as I am at my wits end with all of them
Thanks in advance.
God bless you.
Lyn
A big thanks to all those who have helped.....you are stars!
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Hi Lyn,
Sorry cant help with most but regarding James Kearns, my Gt Gt Grandfather was also a Fencible and he came to NZ on the Ramilies in 1847 as well!
You may already have the following information on James Kearns but just in case not under the Crown land Grants at Onehunga for the Royal NZ Fencible corps he was granted Section 18 Lot 2 (5A 209) on 24 April 1854 this land borders Arthur St, Selwyn St, Church St & Queen St in Onehunga Auckland. My Gt Gt Grandfather Charles MOORE was also granted land in Onehunga at this time, they most probably knew one another.
He was on the list of people who donated to the erection of a House to serve as both a School-room and a temporary Chapel (Catholic) in February 1848 He donated 1 pound & 1 shilling.
In the book I purchased at the Fencibles Reunion a few years ago of James Kearns it says:
James was born 1806 At Donegal, Ireland and enlisted with the 60th regiment. He served some time in the Ionian Islands. he was discharged with palpitations, his height 5'6", grey hair, blue eyes, sallow complexion, a labourer of good character. He was married to Mary BREEN with 3 children when he left Manchester district for Onehunga. mary Ann b 1833, Margaret b 1836 in India and John. On arrival donated to the Catholic Schoolhouse at Onehunga. They settled at Onehunga then sold his land in 1858. His wife Mary was very well known to the local constabulary being regularly (2/3 times per month) charged with drunkeness, theft and having many abusive altercations with her neighbours IRWIN (who later moved away) DOUGLAS, and ORMAN. SHe was regularly arrested for her habitual drunkenness, regularly fined, eventually sentenced to hard labour, then imprisonment. This continued ever year until her death in 1867. The family lived near Coromandel and Thames during the 1860's and enjoyed fishing for their food. She was in Thames near where her daughter lived when she died of natural causes. Their families prospered in the area and James Lived until 1889 and died at Coromandel aged 81 years
If you havent before had this information, hope you find it interesting its great to put 'meat on the bones' of our Ancestors and Mary sounded like a character lol!
Kind regards
Fern
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Hi again Lyn,
Just noticed also in this book there was also a William BREEN that came from Ireland to NZ he was born around 1804 is he part of your ancestry too? If he is and you need to know any further information please let me know
Regards
Fern
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Hi Fern
Thank you so much for that info on James & Mary Kearns. I never knew any of it. Mary Ann Kearns married Isaac Eggerton in Auckland in 1849. They were my g-g-grandparents. I only knew Mary Ann's parent's names from the marriage certificate of my g- g-grandparents. Another cousin told me that they came on the "Ramilles" and that James was a Fencible. She did not know any more about them.
Mary Ann was quite a drunkard, too. She had 9 children (the last in 1863) & died at the age of 40 of liver disease. In 1863, in court, Isaac described her as being drunk 10 months out of 12! I wonder who cared for the children!
Anyway, thanks so much for the info. Now I know where to head with my research on that line.
I really appreciate your help.
God bless you.
Lyn
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Hi Lyn!
How are you? I found a couple of things that may be of interest ..... !
The 65th [Yorkshire North Riding] Regiment of Foot
Nicknames: 'The Royal Tigers' and 'Hickety Pips'.
The 65th sailed to New South Wales from England, provided guards on convict ships during 1845 and 1846. Two companies of the regiment were moved in 1846 to the Bay of Islands, but arrived after the fighting ended. Other detachments were stationed in Auckland. By 1847 the whole regiment had been moved to Wellington, a detachment of which took part in the skirmish at Horokiri. Companies of the 65th relieved the garrison of the 58th Regiment in Wanganui and took part in the fighting there. The regiment remained in garrison in Wellington and Wanganui for 14 years. The 65th Regiment was the only British regiment to serve in both the fighting in the 1840's and the 1860's.
The year 1860 saw the headquarters of the 65th Regiment based in Auckland, but in February of that year the regiment sailed to New Plymouth. It was soon in action at the 'L' Pa at Waitara, and a detachment of the 65th stormed the rifle pits at Mahoetahi. During 1861 the regiment was strongly engaged at the sieges of Huirangi and Te Arei. At the cessation of hostilities the regiment was withdrawn to Auckland where it was stationed first at Otahuhu and later at Drury. A detachment returned to New Plymouth when the Second Taranaki War broke out and were present at the storming of Katikara Pa in June 1863.
The outbreak of the Waikato War saw several companies of the regiment stationed along the Great South Road and in September 1863 a detachment of the regiment was heavily engaged at the skirmish at Camerontown. The 65th sustained losses in the unsuccessful attack on Rangiriri Pa and moved forward to Paterangi from which it advanced against the village of Rangiowhia. Detachments of the regiment were present at the action at Hairini and the siege of Orakau. In 1864 a detachment of the regiment took part in the Gate Pa battle.
[See map of the North Island for location of these actions]
The 65th Regiment remained in garrison in the Waikato and Auckland areas before sailing for England in October 1865.
©Tim Ryan
http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/%7Egarter1/50thfoot.htm
I'll keep looking for the real people!!
Annie
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Do you have this already Lyn?
1861
11 North Street Newcastle Upon Tyne
Robert Stewart 38 Head Scotland Blacksmith Newcastle Upon Tyne
with Margaret wife and 2 daughters Elizabeth J and Meggie
3 sons Richard Thomas and William
RG9/3834 Folio 96 Page 31
Annie
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Hi Fern,
I do not know about a William Breen. I wonder if he was Mary's borther? It would be interesting to find out.
All i know about the Breen line, is that Mary was my g-g-grandmother's mother & was married to James Kearns.
What is the book? Is the the Fencibles one/
Thanks for your time.
God bless you,
Lyn
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Hi Annie,
How are you?
I am great....adding to my tree daily. I have been making use of the Photo Restoration pages, too. Aren't those people talented. I just wouldn't know where to start with that sort of thing.
Thanks for the info. The Stewarts are not ours. I have traced them to Kilbarchan in Renfrewshire, Scotland on 1851 Census Index.
Then there were 4 children born after that in Kilbarchan. I am just waiting for more details. I guess that I should edit my post.
The info on the 65th is interesting. Did you know that they got the nickname "Hickety Pips" simply because that was the nearest the Maoris could come to saying 65th!! I know that my GGGrandfather fought at Rangiriri and at Gate Pa amongst other places. What amazes me is that I was born about a mile from Gate Pa and lived all my childhood a few metres down the road from the battle site. For 2 years, I attended school at a hall built on the site (Shortage of classrooms at the primary school). We used to spend our breaks & lunchtime digging in the trenches for cannon balls!!! And all that time, I never knew about my GGGrandfather! If I had known, I would have kept a cannon ball and painted it with the words..."this one missed Grandpa Arthur"!!!
Once again. Thanks for your interest....my notes are quickly turning into a book!
Take care & God bless you.
Lyn
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Hi Lyn
William BREEN came to New Zealand aboard the "Ann" he was born in the Parish of Templebar, County Fermanagh, Ireland about 1804. He joined 39th Regiment to serve 18 years 11 months, then 5 months with the 54th Regiiment. His height 6'6" dark hair, blue eyes, dark complexion, a labourer of good charager. He left from Sligo to settle at Otahuhu. He intended to marry Margaret WALSH a widow of Howick in 1855. He died and was buried at Otahuhu in 1877 aged 78 years.
On 22 Dec 1854 he was granted land Sect 6 Lot 9 at Otahuhu Village.
In August 1850 Father Clery opened a subscription list for the building of a church and William BREEN was on the list of those who contributed. This was the Otahuhu Catholic Church building in 1856.
He is noted further under a paragraph headed Richard WALSH Richard 6 1808 of the 39th Regiment came with his wife Margaret HAYES (b 1821) and daughter Mary b 1841 and settled at Howick. Richard died at the Colonial Hosiptal of dropsey in 1854 Margaret received 5 acres at Howick and in October 1855 married William BREEN at Howick a bachelor from Otahuhu.
Also in reference to the name BREEN I found...
Francis McIVER Francis of the 84th Regiment left Belfast Ireland with his wife Mary Anne BREEN & 1 child, they also came on the "Ann" He had land at Otahuhu township and a small farm.
Maybe they were all related.
This book which i purchased at the Fencibles reunion a few years ago is called The Royal New Zealand Fencibles - 1847-1852
Regards
Fern
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Hi Fern,
Thanks for that info. I don't know if there is any connection, but I have added it to my "Possible" Folder.
God bless you.
Lyn
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Hi everyone,
Well my ancestors fit into a couple of the Regiments mentioned.
Thomas Pegum was a Fencible and part of the 86th Regiment. He too came to NZ on the Ramillies in 1847.
He was a drunk as was his wife Bridget. The drink was the cause of both their deaths.
Bridget died from exposure after being locked outide while drunk. Thomas from drinking ardent spirits.
My Henry Samways was in the 65th Regiment aka Hickety Pips.
There is a book at my local library which has info regarding the regiments of the NZ Wars.
If anyone would like me to look up a soldier I am more then happy to do that.
Belinda
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Hi Belinda,
The more I read of the Fencibles, the more I realize that drink was a big problem for most of them.
Life must have been pretty hard for them, I think
Regards
Lyn
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Hi Lynbee
Douglas Brown Stewart was my grandfather. I have heaps of stuff - too much for this site. How do you contact me? I am a first time chat room user and don't know the ins and outs of the game. Look forward contact
regards
littleanne
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Hi Anne......
Absolutely thrilled to hear from you!
And welcome to the boards!! I am sure that you will find the peeps here really helpful.
I will send you a personal message, which you can retrieve by going to the top off the page and on the righthand side, you will find a message saying, "Welcome back, littleanne, you have 1 message, 1 are new." If you click on the "1 Message" it will take you to the message.
Blessings,
Lyn
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Hi there,
You may like to get in touch with a lady called Shirely Kendall, her specialty is the Fencibles. I dont have a an address off hand but Im sure someone at the Howick villiage will be able to assist, if not she has got postings on other message boards online.
Also check out this link, and perhaps email the archivist.
http://www.fencible.org.nz/
Cheers
Del
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Hi,
Located these Marriages
Year 1840-1850
Folio 0239
Surname EGGERTON
Given Names Isaach
Sex M
Spouse KERNS, Mary
Comment marriage cert 16 Jun 1849
Year 1849
Folio NZSG04681
Surname EGGERTON
Given Names Isaach
Spouse Surname KERNS
Spouse Given Names Mary
Year 1875
Folio 0422
Surname EGGENTON
Given Names Isaac
Sex M
Spouse WALLING, Harriet
Year 1886
Folio 1019
Surname STEWART
Given Names Douglas Brown
Sex M
Spouse McMILLAN, Ellen
Year 1916
Folio 1869
Surname STEWART
Given Names Douglas Brown
Sex M
Spouse ENGLAND, Anne
Year 1934
Folio 01840
Surname WYATT
Given Names William Henry
Sex M
Spouse WALLACE, Myrtle
I can check further marriages, but am guessing with surnames like Stewart, there will be a lot of hits.
Cheers
Del
Cheers
Del
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1893 NZ Elec Roll
Surname EGGERTON
Given Name Isaac
Number 3962
Electorate City of Auckland
Voting Qualification Freehold
Residential Address Coburg St
Occupation Wood dealer
Property Detail Lots 11 and 12 of 5 and 6, section 14, Coburg St
Surname EGGERTON
Given Name John
Number 3963
Electorate City of Auckland
Voting Qualification Residential
Residential Address Hobson St
Occupation Seaman
Surname EGGENTON
Given Name Harriet
Number 3956
Electorate City of Auckland
Voting Qualification Residential
Residential Address Morton St
Occupation Domestic duties
Surname EGGENTON
Given Name James
Number 3957
Electorate City of Auckland
Voting Qualification Residential
Residential Address Cook St
Occupation Mariner
Surname EGGENTON
Given Name Margaret
Number 3959
Electorate City of Auckland
Voting Qualification Residential
Residential Address Coburg St
Occupation Spinster
Surname EGGENTON
Given Name Margaret
Number 3958
Electorate City of Auckland
Voting Qualification Residential
Residential Address Baker St
Occupation Married
Surname EGGENTON
Given Name Walter
Number 3960
Electorate City of Auckland
Voting Qualification Residential
Residential Address Abercrombie St
Occupation Sailor
1881 NZ Elec Roll
Electorate Auckland East
Number 251
Surname EGGERTON
Given Names Isaac
Nature Of Qualification Freehold
Place Of Residence Coburg Street
Occupation Wood Dealer
For Property Qualification Three cottages, Coburg street
Electorate Coromandel
Number 1392
Surname EGGERTON
Given Names William
Nature Of Qualification Residential
Place Of Residence Port Charles
Occupation Shipwright
Electorate Coromandel
Number 614
Surname KEARNS
Given Names James
Nature Of Qualification Residential
Place Of Residence Kapanga
Occupation Pensioner
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Hi Del,
Thanks for that. I will contact them.
All the best for the New Year.
Regards
Lyn
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Thanks again, Del.
Went to make a cuppa, came back to answer your first post & when I posted it, I foud that you had been very busy.
I do have most of the marriages I want, but see that there are a couple there that are new to me. Thanks
Blessings
Lyn
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Hi
William Wallace is my great great grandfather. His father Arthur and his mother Mary came to NZ on the Palymra and landed in Wellington in 1848.
The family shifted to Wanganui (Arthur is buried in Heads Rd Cem.), William fought in the Land Wars- his younger brother Richard also fought and was killed at the battle for Te Ngutu in Taranaki.
William settled in Meremere/Ohangai and farmed. Have a look at "paperspast" at the Hawera Star.
I hope some of this help, you can always get back to me if need be. :)
Regards,
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Hi,
I have sent you a Personal Message.
Hoping to hear from you soon.
Blessings
Lyn
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Hi Fern,
Charles is my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather. I would love to compare notes on what you have about him?
He was a warden of the hundred of onehunga, which I am going to try and track down a bit further. I also have his miltary postings (4th regiment from 1817 onwards), trying to rack down his activities 1813 -1817, around Waterloo period.
I have his section number too, from a picture in the fencible cottage in Onehunga, will work out where that is and I'll pop down and have a look, as I live quite close by...
Kind regards
Gary
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