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Title: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: roy lees on Thursday 20 October 05 14:23 BST (UK)

Can anyone find William Powell , and wife Mary in the 1851 or 1841 Census for Dorset.

In 1861 they were living at St Andrews Well,  Bradpole, with William aged 67, born Wooton, Dorset,   and Mary aged 64 ,born Whitchurch, Dorset

I would be interested in any info from the 1841/51 census, siblings, ages etc.

Thanks

Roy

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: suffolk*sue on Thursday 20 October 05 19:27 BST (UK)

1841

HO 107/280/3  -  Bradpole
Sch. 13, Page 20
Pymore Gate PB Out

POWEL
William - 45 - smith
Mary - 40
Jane - 14
Ann - 11
Lucy - 9
Ellen - 5
Sidney - 2

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: roy lees on Thursday 20 October 05 19:56 BST (UK)

Great,


              Thanks very much for that

              Roy

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: allibaker on Sunday 13 May 07 14:04 BST (UK)

william powell bapt 8th sept 1793 wootton fitzpaine.parents george and elizabeth.
there is also a brother john showing as bapt 11th may 1794

also these look like some of the children-
anna lavinia bapt 18th dec 1829 bradpole.parents william and mary
lucy bapt 20th jan 1833
helen bapt 3rd april 1836
emily anna bapt 1st jan 1846
regards
alli

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: allibaker on Sunday 13 May 07 14:06 BST (UK)

could this be parents marriage?
william powell married mary bridle 1st oct 1821 whitchurch canonicorium dorset
regards
alli

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: roy lees on Wednesday 16 May 07 15:22 BST (UK)

Wow Alli, Thanks for the info. This ties in perfectly with the other information I have, and gives me another avenue to explore

  Best Wishes

      Roy

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 16 May 07 17:10 BST (UK)

sorry i cannot find any of this family in 1851 maybe someone else will have better luck?
 :-\
just a thought but is bradpole even on the 1851 ? does anyone know if any of the parishes are missing from the 1851 cencus?
regards
alli

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: fizzybubble on Wednesday 16 May 07 17:30 BST (UK)

1851 Bradpole

William 57 blacksmith Wotton
Mary 50         Whitechurch
Lucy 20 spinner Bradpole
harriott  19 spinner Whitechurch
Ellen 14 factory Bradpole
Sidney 11 Bradpole
Margaret E 8 Bradpole
Emilia E 5 Bradpole
Susannah 4 bradpole


Fizzy

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 16 May 07 17:32 BST (UK)

  :o  :o :o is all i can say.
iam gobsmacked well done you fizzy  :)

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: fizzybubble on Wednesday 16 May 07 17:44 BST (UK)

it looks as though Jane may have married in SepQ 1844 but spouse is unavailable on Free BMD.

Fizzy

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: roy lees on Thursday 17 May 07 08:35 BST (UK)

Thanks to all for helping,

    This post is 18 months old , and it's great to find people still checking back . I had already found the 1851 census info once it became available on Ancestry , but I will now chase up the marriage of Jane , and see if that gives any further info

   Cheers

      Roy

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: fizzybubble on Thursday 17 May 07 12:16 BST (UK)

You did well to find the census info on Ancestry because I couldnt.

I am always looking at old posts that have NUL replies, because new info is coming online all the time and what couldnt be answered then may well be able to be answered now.

Fizzy

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: roy lees on Thursday 17 May 07 14:12 BST (UK)

Couldn't agree more,

        I keep revisiting my tree to try and fill in the gaps that , as you say, the information was not available at an earlier pass.

        Thanks for all you help, and one day I hope to get down to Dorset to see the area itself

      Regards

       Roy

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: TheAshman66 on Tuesday 07 April 09 00:18 BST (UK)

Hi, reading all these comments they could tie in with my search but equally might not. 

I am searching ing for Lucy Powell (who is somehow connected to Sebilla Powell but I don't know how).  Lucy married William Hoskins Barnes.  They had Lucy Ellen and William Henry.  I believe the daughter, Lucy Ellen, married Edward Gollop?? I'm struggling with records as I don't seem to find anything concrete so help would be appreciated.  All this happened in Charmouth although Lucy Ellen (daughter) was born in Lyme Regis??

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: roy lees on Tuesday 07 April 09 17:21 BST (UK)

Hi Jo,

     I wrote to you in mid Feb via Ancestry, did you not receive the email?? Have you got the following information as I may be able to help 1) the marriage certificate of Lucy Powell to William Barnes, if so what was Lucy’s fathers name and occupation?
     Have you found Lucy in the 1851 census ?

     Regards

          Roy

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: TheAshman66 on Wednesday 08 April 09 13:01 BST (UK)

Hi Roy, I do remember you writing to me and that was probably the last time I was actively looking - I seem to go through phases - I haven't looked up the marriage certificate for Lucy and William - looking at your details you have a Lucy in your list so I guess they could be connected (and Lucy did call her daughter Lucy Ellen - I see a sister named Ellen but I guess they were not uncommon names at that time.)  I'm particularly keen to find out Lucy's connection with Sebilla Powell as I know Lucy had a sampler on her kitchen wall made by Sebilla but I can't see them living in the same family.  I will see if I can order the marriage certificate - it's funny how with some people in your tree you receive numerous mails and the information seems to come easily and with others you seem to come across a brick wall with nothing.  I'll see what I can find out.  Thanks again Roy.  Jo.

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: roy lees on Thursday 09 April 09 12:01 BST (UK)

Hi Jo,

   Information for you goes as follows

   Marriage of William Hoskins Barns to Lucy Powell reference is

   Jul - Sep 1854 Honiton Volume 5b Page 23


   1851 Census. (not available on Ancestry) HO 107/1861 Folio 507 page 11

   Stone Borrow
    
Amey Powel   Head   Widow      69   Farmering 60 Acres 2 Labourers   Colyton Devon
Sophia      Daur   U      34   Daur            Dorset  Charmouth
Lucy      Do   U      33   Do            Do   Do
Amey      Do   U      26   Do            Do   Do
Jane Elizabeth   Do   U      22   Do            Do   Do
William Grening Servant   U   20      Farmers Indoor Servant      Do   Whitchurch


   1841 Census   HO107/282/11 Folio 1 Page 22

   Stoneborrow
       
James Powell   50      Farmer   y
Amy   Do      40      y
Charles Do   20         y
Sophia   Do      20      y
James   Do   15         y
Sebilla   Do      15      y
George   Do   10         y
Amy   Do      10      y
Joan   Do       9      y

   From the IGI/ Dorset Family History I found the following

   Christenings

      Thomas    Powell    14/4/1811   James and Amey
      Charles      21/12/1812   Do
      George      13/3/1815   DO      Butcher
      Sophia      6/1/1817                   Do      Butcher   
      James      6/1/1817                   Do      Butcher   
      Lucy      10/10/1818   Do      Butcher
      Sebilla      7/4/1822                   Do      Butcher
      Lucy      7/4/1822                   Do      Butcher
      Amy Bull                   16/5/1824   Do      Butcher
      Elizabeth Jane   9/4/1829                   Do      Butcher

   Marriages
      
      James Powell to Amy Bull 28/3/1810

   Deaths/Burials

      Sibella Powell   11/8/1841



   Hope this helps , and I believe it shows that your Sebilla and Lucy were sisters


   Best Wishes

   Roy

               P.s. sorry for the layout , but can't get TABS to be actioned correctly

      

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: TheAshman66 on Thursday 09 April 09 12:57 BST (UK)

Roy, you're are complete star - I'm obviously not very good at this!!  I'd looked at the 1841 census but couldn't see Lucy and then noticed that Sebilla died and lost the thread.  I guess that would explain why Lucy had the sampler made by Sebilla on her kitchen wall all those years ago.

Do you have any idea how I could find out the name of the farm they lived on - it looks like 'Shocks' Farm? in Stanton St Gabriel but I can't find it on the web and assume it no longer exists.  Any ideas where to find such info?    Are we related?

I'm so grateful for your help Roy.  Thank you.

Jo.

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: roy lees on Thursday 09 April 09 13:24 BST (UK)

Hi Jo,

    The 1841 /1851 census has them living at Stonebarrow in Stanton ST Gabriel . Multimap shows Stonebarrow Hill in St Gabriel , so I will investigate if I can find a farm there. It may also be worth contacting the National Trust who have an information shop on Stonebarrow Hill http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/main/w-vh/w-visits/w-findaplace/w-goldencap/w-goldencap-facilities.htm

      Will keep you posted

        Roy

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: roy lees on Thursday 09 April 09 14:14 BST (UK)

Jo,

    Looking at the census they lived at Stonebarrow, the next fam being Westhay , and the one after that being Gabriels. There is also a 16th century Stonebarrow Manor at the bottom of Stonebarrow Hill, so this may be the same place. You could try contacting them at http://www.stonebarrowmanor.co.uk/, they may have some history of the area

    Good Luck

      Roy.

       P.s. We aren't related as far as I can tell as our Lucy's father was William Powell

Title: Re: Powell 1841 and 1851 in Bradpole, Dorset
Post by: TheAshman66 on Thursday 09 April 09 15:18 BST (UK)

Thanks for your help Roy - not knowing the area doesn't help but that give me a bit to be getting on with - I find it all so confusing but incredibly interesting.  I love Dorset and I'm quite fascinated to think that my family all came from there.

Thank you again.  Have a lovely Easter Break!!  Jo.