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Title: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: ex1066er on Saturday 15 October 05 18:57 BST (UK)
Hello - can anyone please help with providing the household details for the following Betteridge references that Rootschatter "sillgen" has kindly idendified from the Brighton - 1851 Census index.

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Betteridge entries in 1851 HO 107 1646
Folio 20 Henry, James, John, John, Samuel
Folio 155 Ann, Eliza, George, Henry, Samuel, Samuel
Folio 321 Elizabeth
Folio 322 Eliza, Eliza

No other details in the index so you need to ask for a look up of the actual film now that you have the references.  There are a couple of people who have the 1851 CDs.   Might be best to start another post so they see it.
Andrea

Many thanks
John
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: Gemsgirl on Monday 17 October 05 19:48 BST (UK)
Here we go - hope it helps!!

HO 107/ 1646 Folio 20
1 Wardens Buildings, East Street, Old Town, Brighton
BETTERIDGE John   Head  Widower 80y hairdresser b. Mansfield, Notts
BETTERIDGE James  son     u     54y hairdresser       b. Fareham, Hants
BETTERIDGE John   son      u     51y porter                 b. Fareham, Hants
BETTERIDGE Samuel son    u     42y painter             b. Brighton
BETTERIDGE Henry  son     u     32y tailor                  b. Brighton

 HO 107/1646 Folio 155
5 Blucher Place, Old Town, Brighton
BETTERIDGE Samuel  Head   Mar  44y painter & Glazier b. Eastbourne
BETTERIDGE Ann     wife   Mar  46y painter & glaziers wife b. Woodchurch, Kent
BETTERIDGE George  son    son 15y painter  born Brighton
BETTERIDGE Henry   son    son  12y scholar  born Brighton
BETTERIDGE Samuel  son   son  11y              born Brighton
BETTERIDGE Eliza   daug   daug  4y               born Brighton

HO 107/1646 Folio 621  North Street, Old Town, Brighton
Corder Family
BETTERIDGE Elizabeth Servant unmarried House Servant born Brighton

HO 107/1646 Folio 632
2 Elm Tree Cottages, Old Town, Brighton

TURNER Thomas Head  married   46y   J. Carpenter     b. Deptford, Kent
TURNER Martha   wife   married   47y  Dressmaker      b. Westminster St James
BETTERIDGE Eliza  daug. married 20y visitor                b. Newington, Surrey   
TURNER Emma daug                     18y dressmaker      b. Brixton, Surrey
TURNER John son                          12y                         b. Brighton
TURNER Elizabeth daug                 6y                           b. Brighton
JACKSON Eliza wifes sister  unm   40y                          b. Westminster, St James
BETTERIDGE Eliza grandaughter    1m                          b. Brighton

Best Wishes from Gemsgirl :)
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: ex1066er on Monday 17 October 05 22:13 BST (UK)
 :) :) :) :)
Many thanks Gemsgirl. The census information is most useful ... it tells me I have to widen my search for the roots of the Betteridges who settled in Brighton & Eastbourne.

I would love to have been able to take a peek into the 1st household you listed ..... an 80yr old father, and his 4 unmarried sons (ranging 54 to 34years old).  I wonder what they cooked for supper and how they divided up the household chores !!!?

John
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: allibaker on Sunday 15 January 06 12:41 GMT (UK)
dont know if this helps at all john?
taken from the BIVRI index-
all baptised at st nicholas brighton with parents samuel betteridge and ann-
ann bapt 19th dec 1830
elizabeth bapt 2nd dec 1832
emma bapt 28th dec 1834
george bapt 18th sept 1836
henry bapt 13th oct 1839
samuel bapt 19th mat 1841
alfred bapt 3rd sept 1843
francis bapt 13th april 1845
regards
alli
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: allibaker on Sunday 15 January 06 12:46 GMT (UK)
also taken from the BIVRI index-
samuel betteridge married ann butler 2nd oct 1825 at brighton st nicholas.
regards
alli
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: allibaker on Sunday 15 January 06 12:56 GMT (UK)
dont know if this is your amazing family with 4 older children still living at home unmarried-
samuel betteridge bapt 5th june 1808 at brighton st nicholas.parents john betteridge and charlotte.
siblings also baptised at brighton -
william bapt 5th june 1808 same as samuel but born 26th may 1806.
richard bapt 17th dec 1809.
regards
alli
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: ex1066er on Tuesday 17 January 06 00:25 GMT (UK)
Hello Alli,
Thanks so much for the BIVRI information - that is most useful, and it reinforces the "strong leads" I have obtained on-line from IGI records.
I live on an island, and my main source of research material is limited to internet sites ... could you tell me if I can access BIVRI on-line? (I don't mind if it's a pay-site). If not, would you mind my asking for a BIVRI lookup regarding my Betteridge ancestors quest.
 
My direct Betteridge ancestor (Ellen) was born in Eastbourne SSX, and I have traced her father (John) in the 1841 & 1851 Census for Eastbourne. What took me to Brighton was the fact that Ellen married in Brighton and from the Marriage Certificate I found other Betteridge family members residing in Brighton (brother & cousins).

Would you mind doing a BIVRI search for any birth or marriage record of Ellen's father. From the 1841 & 1851 Census combined information I have:
   John BETTERIDGE born abt. 1780 in Stow or Stoke, Glocestershire. (looks more like Stow on the census).

Hope you don't mind my imposing, and thanks again for your help so far.

John


   
 
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: Brede on Sunday 30 July 06 14:23 BST (UK)
Hi, ex1066er,

I was really interested in your search regarding the Betteridge family in Sussex.  My Grandmother on my Father's side was named Ellen May Betteridge, although I think she came from up country, she married in Eastbourne and lived on a farm called 'Winkney' with my Grandfather, Percival Attfield.  Please let me know if this info relates to your search and Ill see what else I can find out.

Good luck. 
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: Annmartin on Wednesday 16 August 06 07:57 BST (UK)
Brede
finally another person with Percy Attfield in her records!!!
I havebeen searching and searching for details of my grandmothers uncle and his family for a couple of years and so far have not stumbled across anything other than his brothers name and a couple of old london newpapers articles that mentions them owning the land at Winkney farm.
I have sent you a personal message on here so hope to here from you soon!!!
Thanks
Ann
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 16 August 06 09:00 BST (UK)
the only john betteridge showing on the bivri for gloucestershire is this one-
john betteridge bapt 20th may 1781 abson gloucestershire.parents john and eliza betteridge.stow is proberley stow on the wold
regards
alli
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: allibaker on Wednesday 16 August 06 09:11 BST (UK)
the BIVRI has these marriages for betteridges in brigton sussex.
samuel betteridge married ann butler 2nd oct 1825
charles betteridge married kitty jasper 24th oct 1827
emily charlotte bettridge married william alfred hutt 1st aug 1870.brides father george betteridge and grooms father william hutt .brides age 18yrs and grooms age 21yrs.
elizabeth ann bettridge married william baker 26th oct 1876.brides father edward william betteridge and grooms father william baker.brides age 20yrs grooms age 25yrs.
ada sarah charlotte bettridge married thomas frederick hart 14th june 1877.brides father george betteridge and grooms father thomas hart.brides age 19yrs and grooms age 23yrs
regards
alli
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: ex1066er on Thursday 17 August 06 22:02 BST (UK)
Hi Alli,

Thanks for the BIVRI lookups for my BETTERIDGE family.

At first glance I thought that your John Betteridge find in Abson,Glocestershire was too far from Stow [0n-the-Wold].  But I should explore further, as the only reference I have to his place of birth is "Stoke [or Stow], Glos." from the 1851 Census.

Close to Abson I have found "Stone", "Stone Easton", "North Stoke" ....... so the hunt continues.

John
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: ex1066er on Thursday 17 August 06 22:21 BST (UK)
Hi Anne & 'Brede',

Glad to see that my hunt has by chance flushed out your link to Ellen May Betteridge from Eastbourne.

Did you know that there are two Ellen May Betteridge listings in the 1891 Eastbourne Census? The elder is a widow age 66 born in Mitchelmarsh, Hants. The younger is age 1 born in Eastbourne (and her father Walter Betteridge was born in Winchester, Hants).  Is the elder Ellen May the mother of Walter, with a grandaughter named after her?

Did your Percy Attfield marry the above younger Ellen May Betteridge? If so, I encourage you to follow your Betteridge line back ..... we may link up in Glocestershire!

Let me know about Ellen May.
John 
Title: Re: 1851 Census details pls - Brighton
Post by: Annmartin on Friday 18 August 06 08:13 BST (UK)
I spoke to my nan, and she says she used to call her Uncle Percys wife Aunt Nellie!!!! but I am  sure it is Ellen and know Percy Attfield was definitely her Uncle, as nan remembers him having the farm at Winkney, and having the Roads Percival Road and Attfield Walk named after him.  Ellen had brothers and a sister, Kate (my great grandmother) Horace...who moved to Canada and I think Sidney.  Nan also remembers an Arthur....but whether he existed I am not sure.
Walter was definitely their father, and Mary.......I have a newpaper obituary for Mary Kate....My nans grandmother....she died on June 15th 1924, aged 72.  Her ashes were interred at Ocklynce cemetery, Old Town in Eastbourne.
Anyway...I hope this rings bells for someone...and I am busily looking for more links.  Hope to report back with more soon!!!
Ann

O by the way...Brede, is that actually your name?  Nan says it rang a bell for her when I mentioned you......do you remember a Kitty (always known as Molly) Gander?   She would have been your cousin I guess.