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Title: Robert's facial features
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 15 October 05 03:40 BST (UK)
Hi,

    I watch this board each day to see the wonderful results provided by you incredibly talented people. I hope you may be able to help. Here is Photograph of a known person taken from his sisters photo album. There are two other photo's in the album with no details to identify who it is. We are trying to work out if it is the same man at 3 different ages. This Photo (The only one displaying the identity of the man) seems to show less of the facial features than the 2 unknown photo's. I hope you can help clarify his facial features. Thank You......Kris  :D
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 15 October 05 03:45 BST (UK)
Here are the 2 unknown Photo's. Certainly a family resemblance but is it the same man? Hopefully with a better idea of Robert's features we may be able to tell....Kris  :D
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: Gary56 on Saturday 15 October 05 03:51 BST (UK)
Not a great deal to deal with  .. but here is a bt of a clean up ...

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Gary Wilkinson
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Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 15 October 05 03:59 BST (UK)
Gee Gary How quick was that. Amazing. Thank you very much has certainly brought his features out now back to studying.....Kris  :D
PS Love Henley Jetty  ;D
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: Gary56 on Saturday 15 October 05 04:06 BST (UK)
Not a problem .. Helps to be in the same timezone ... ;)

Yes .. Henley Beach is great ... The little thumbnail doesn't do the original photo justice ...

glorious sunset back in Dec 2003 ... photo is "untouched" ... It really was that spectacular colour ..

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Gary Wilkinson
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Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: MaryA on Saturday 15 October 05 04:22 BST (UK)
Just offering an opinion if you want one?  I think you have three different people. 

The one you know looks to have very different eyes to the other two, far more hooded.  Of the two you don't know, despite the different angles, their noses look different shapes ....... unless they did nose jobs back then  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: deadants on Saturday 15 October 05 07:01 BST (UK)
I think you have three different people here.

If you look at the guy on the right, his hair is parted on the Right while the other two have parts on the left. The two gents on the right have strikingly different folds in their ears. If you look at the gent in the middle you will see he has a slightly turned up nose compared the your known pearson on the left.

Of course they could be related.
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: gazza on Saturday 15 October 05 16:49 BST (UK)
just to put the cat amongst the pidgeons. I have borrowed hair and moustache from one & put them on the younger one. In the 3rd I have added just one eyebrow. Now that I have learnt to cut and paste at last!
I think it is easy to be fooled by different lighting and shadows & angles making features look different from how they actually are.
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: gazza on Saturday 15 October 05 16:50 BST (UK)
eyebrow
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: tomkin on Saturday 15 October 05 22:05 BST (UK)
Hi Krisespoint,
                        3 different people.
Tomkin.
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 15 October 05 22:49 BST (UK)
Gary Yes the colour is absolutely amazing. You see some lovely sunsets but that one is brilliant, particularly when you know the spot. Doesn't the light stick out.

Anthony, Thank you. what a good way to do it, putting the three men alongside each other like that. I took Gary's darkened Robert and spent a couple of hours yesterday trying to view him alongside the other two. Not easy for a mug like me. You make it so easy to do a comparison. Really the question could these all possibly be photo's of Robert only was considered as the other two were part of the same Lady's collection, from Stafford, where her family were from. She only had 1 brother.

 I could see similarities and differences in the Photo's.  Much easier with them alongside each other like this. Things such as I thought the ear of Robert and the ear of the younger unknown appeared similar. I could see the ear of the moustached gentleman was totally different, but it was the other ear, perhaps his ears didn't match...lol (The things that come to mind). The Moustached gentleman also appeared to have a bit of a hooked nose but wasn't sure if that was so or just moustache and shadow, making it appear so.  Interesting in Anthony's mugshots that seems to be the case. The straight mouths appeared very similar. Noses and eyes I couldn't get a proper look at Robert's. Robert's eyes to me appeared different to the two unknowns yet the unknowns eyes seemed similar to each other. With Robert I wasn't sure as I couldn't really see it properly. Certainly in Anthony's mugshots the nose of the younger unknown does appear to turn up more than Robert. Initially I thought all the nostrils seemed similar though noses probably not. One unknown has a squarer chin than the other. The eyebrows of the moustached man certainly seemed bushier than the others, but again the man is older. As to the part in the hair. I have over time parted my hair anywhere from one ear to the other or not at all but I guess men are more likely to part in the same place.

Gazza, Don't know how you turned the moustached man about like that. It does look like him but guess its not as he is now facing the same way and has his hair parted on same side. What a bit of fun switching body parts like that. very clever trick. Thank you also for showing me. And to the others thank you for sharing your opinion. It appears that for now these will remain photo's of unknown persons.

Once Again thank you all for your help. It is appreciated....Best Wishes......Kris  :D
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: tomkin on Saturday 15 October 05 23:26 BST (UK)
Hi Krisespoint,
                      Did a quick clean up on the first photo.
Suspect some one had already had a go at it. If you want,
 please post the original untouched version and I will try to improve
on this posting. High resolution if possible.
Tomkin
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: tomkin on Saturday 15 October 05 23:29 BST (UK)
P.S,
          I think Deadants works in a Forensic Lab.
Watch out Sherlock.
Tomkin
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: deadants on Saturday 15 October 05 23:40 BST (UK)
It remids me of Officer Obie in Alice's Restaurant By Arlo Guthrie. ;D



Quote
We walked in, sat down, Obie came in with the twenty seven eight-by-ten
colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back
of each one, sat down.  Man came in said, "All rise."  We all stood up,
and Obie stood up with the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy
pictures, and the judge walked in sat down with a seeing eye dog, and he
sat down, we sat down. Obie looked at the seeing eye dog, and then at the
twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows
and a paragraph on the back of each one, and looked at the seeing eye dog.
And then at twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles
and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one and began to cry,
Title: Re: Robert's facial features
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 15 October 05 23:45 BST (UK)
Thank you Tomkin. Unfortunately I cannot do that. The originals belong to a fellow researcher in NZ. He has had them put on disk and all are exactly the same size. Wonderful for adding to the website. Very small and all of uniform size but I realize no good for restoration. There are other photo's badly in need of help but I only have them in the same format. Great for me as they use very little memory and the pages look great with all pics uniform, but for you, no good at all.

I did email the man who has the originals from his great grandmothers album yesterday directing him to this thread. He is a very busy man and may not get to his email till mid week. Perhaps he will be interested in some restorations at a later date. Thank you for the kind offer....Kris  :D

Laughing my head off at Alice's Restaurant....It was good! So many Glossies of Rubbish...