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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Lookups completed => Topic started by: NEATWHEAT on Friday 14 October 05 13:58 BST (UK)
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Hi
I am trying to trace my great aunts. They were born in Llandudno, Caernarvon North Wales. Their father was Ishmael Cartwright and their mother was Elizabeth.
The three of them emergrated to Melbourne in the 1920's
Mary Cartwright born about 1894
Esther Cartwright born about 1891
and Beatrice Cartwright born about 1900
They had another sisters Margaret born about 1887 but I am not sure if she emergrated
Mary and Esther went first and Beatrice' boyfriend went before her with a view to getting a job and then send for her but he met someone else unfortunately and never sent for her but her sisters persuaded her to go anyway. One of their Children Joan and Tom gave birth to quads but they didnt survive, not sure if Tom was her son or Joan her daughter but I was told by my grandmother that the quads were preserved and kept in the university for the students studies.
I do not have any other information this is what my Grandmother Sarah Ellen told me a long time ago, she was born in 1888 and moved to Cardiff in South Wales where she lived until she died in the 1950's. She had twin daughters Cora and Enid. Cora is my mother and the twins will be 90 this year so it would be a lovely present if I could trace their family ties in Australia
Many thanks
NEATWHEAT
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Here are the deaths of 2 of them
LOWE Beatrice
Father: Cartwright Ish Mother: Elizabeth HUGHES
Death Place: ELWO Age: 59
Year: 1958 Reg Number: 11623
BINGHAM Esther
Father: Cartwright Ish Mother: Elizabeth HUGHES
Death Place: BRIG Age: 71
Year: 1961 Reg Number: 9824
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Hi
Thanks for the death information, I now also now their married names. That was a very quick reply.
NEATWHEAT
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This is also possibly some children but I can't find the marriage at the moment
BINGHAM Donald Hayden
Event: B
Father: Harry Mother: Esther CARTWRIGHT
Birth Place: BTON Year: 1920
Reg. Number: 995
BINGHAM Hildred
Event: B
Father: Harry Mother: Esther CARTWRIGHT
Birth Place: SANHAM Year: 1914
Reg. Number: 26178
BINGHAM Leslie
Event: B
Father: Harry Mother: Esther CARTWEIGHT
Birth Place: MALVERN Year: 1915
Reg. Number: 32102
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If you go to www.necropolis.com.au which is The Necropolis Springvale Cemetery, and click Deceased Enquiries, and type in Esther, Harry and Donald Hayden Bingham you can see the dates they died and the date of service.
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Hi
With the help I have had today I have found a marriage for Esther Cartwright and a Bingham in Conway North Wales in 1913, it doesnt give his christian name though.
Thanks for your help so far
NEATWHEAT
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Hi
I have been doing some searching and found an envelope with an address for Miss M Cartwright who lived in Park Avenue, Sandringham, Melbourne
Dont know when this was but maybe someone can help me trace her. It proves to me that either Margaret or Mary also emergrated.
Thanks again
NEATWHEAT
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Here she is
CARTWRIGHT Margaret Elizabe
Father: Ishmael Mother: Elizabeth HUGHES
Death Place: MELB Age: 79
Year: 1966 Reg Number: 16012
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Hi Sleat
Thank you so much for getting me the information on the Cartwright sisters.
I am now in touch with my long lost family, they have been looking for my side of the family for years.
Without knowing the sisters married names I could go no further but thanks to you I found it was Bingham and found Bingham from Melbourne on Genes Reunited. I know it was a long shot but sent a message anyway, my long shot paid off, it was the correct family.
Thanks again
NEATWHEAT
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Dear Neatwheat.
I think I can add another side to your family. My grandmother was the daughter of Charles the youngest son of Elias.
We stayed in North Wales and I visited Hendre a great deal when I was young. My mother was born in Hendre and Margaret the second wife of Elias lived with Charles her son until she was over 77 years of age.
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Hello there Lanson
a big Welcome to Rootschat and especially to the Australian boards, hope we can help you at some time.
Neatwheat
1930/1936 Electoral Roll
has Margaret Elizabeth Cartwright living at 14 Landcox Street, in Brighton occupation home duties.
also
Beatrice Lowe same address home duties.
Jenn
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1936 Roll
Harry Bingham Contractor
Esther Bingham homeduties
living at 19 Lansdown Street, Brighton.
Jenn
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Dear Neatwheat thank you for your response any information that you have on the Cartwrights would be most welcome.
Did Elias the elder have two sons called Richard one born ion 1849 and one in 1866.
The 1851 census shows a son Richard aged 2 in 1861 he is 12.
My theory is that Margaret the second wife already had children when she married Elias.
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Hi,
You might like to know where they are interred.
At Springvale Crematorium and Cemetery.
Esther Bingham. Cremated. Date of Service. 6/6/1961
Bingham, Harry Cremated. Date of Service. 21/7/1964
Cartwright MAary Elizabeth Tristania - Rose Tree Garden G4 Bed 5 Rose 12 CREMATION Date of service 9/7/1960.
SORRY: Just saw that Sleat has already posted this information. Apologies
Sue
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Just adding also that the ww2 nominal roll shows Leslie Bingham and his exact birthdate 11/11/1915.
Born Melb. 1940 enlisted Caulfield. Next of Kin, Harry Bingham. Living at Brighton then and discharged in 1945.
Also Donald Hayden is at Springvale . Service date 16/8/1991
Sue
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Hi Lansdon
Nice to hear from you. I have lots of information on the Cartwright family
Are you a member of Genes Reunited because you can search for the trees on there an contact me via that site, I can then give you permission to view my Family tree.
Hope this will help.
Regards
NEATWHEAT
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Dear Neatwheat,
I am a member of Genes Reunited and will do what you have suggested. Thnk you.