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Hi there,
I am looking for some 1851 Census details on:
JOHN HARVEY born c1831 in Armitage, Staffs married FANNY RUSSELL born c1827 in Lichfield, Staffs.
They had children: Charles,Eliza, Joshua, Sarah and George.
They would probably be on the Census in Staffordshire
JOHN HARVEY appears on the 1871 Census as HARVERY so he may appear on earlier Census records under either of these names.
Ideally, I would like information on John's parents and siblings.
Any help would be greatly appreciated ;D
Sue Harvey
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Hello Sue
1861 ref: RG9/1977 Folio 89
John Harvey Head 28 b Armitage Shoemaker
Fanny Harvey Wife 32 b Lichfield
William Harvey Son 7 b Armitage
Charles Harvey Son 5 b Armitage
Eliza Harvey Dau 1 b Longdon
Hill Top, Longdon, Staffordshire
Sue
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This could be John's Parents on the 1861 census
Ref: RG9/1977 Folio 48
Joshua Harvey Head 79 b Armitage, Staffordshire Farmer of 40 acres emplying 1 man
Sarah Harvey Wife 76 b Kings Bromley, Staff
Ann Harvey Dau 49 Unm b Bradley, Staff
Fanny Rice Granddaughter 14 b Kings Bromley, Staff
Thomas Porter Son-in-law 51 b Billbrook, Staff Visitor
Sarah Porter Dau 48 b Sardon, Staff Visitor
James Handscre Serv 36 Unm b Kings Bromley, Staff Cowman
Clarks Hayes Farm, Armitage and Handsacre, Staffordshire
Sue
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Hi
I'm looking for Harvey's in Staffordshire too around the Rugeley area just down the road from Armitage and have a very tentative IGI based tree back to 1735 - waiting for a chance to get to the records office one day!
In my tree I have
John HARVEY and Mary LAKIN married on 21 February 1831 in Rugeley. Their children were Mary bp 15 June 1836 died after 1901 (mu husband's ancestress), Edmund John 1837?, Elizabeth 1838, James 1843,Fanny 1846, Amelia 1851, Hannah 1852, Isaac 1856 and Jane 1858.
I've always thought that having married in 1831 it was odd that they had no children until 1836 and never seem to have named a child after his father. Since Armitage is only just down the road from Rugeley I wonder!?
Gill
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Its possible that the two are related somehow!
However i havent got that far yet!
I am stuck at John & Fanny and would like to find John's parents, so i'm looking for 1851 Census details which should be online soon. Otherwise, i'm going to have to look for a marriage certificate
Sue
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Hi found this family in 1841
Armitage
HO107/977/3 page 27
William Harvey 45 wheelwright y
fanny 40 y
Eliza 15
James 12
john 10
Joseph 5
Mary 2
Charles 2mths
john titley 15 wheelwright
Robert dercy? 15 "
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found the same family in 1851 but John is not with them
William 55 wheelright Rugeley
Fanny 51? 2
Joseph 14 armitage
Mary 12
Charles 10
Francis 8
Robert dercy? 29 sev longton
2015 f.226
Donna
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Thanks to everyone who has posted so far.
Can anyone find him on the 1851 Census tho?
Sue ::)
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I've looked through Rugeley and Armitage but unable to find John.
I dont know if you have the marriage details but.........
Marriages Jun 1853
Harvey John Lichfield 6b 424
RUSSEL Fanny Lichfield 6b 424
And Fanny's christening..............
FANNY RUSSELL
Christening: 28 OCT 1827 Saint Chad, Lichfield, Stafford, England
Father: THOMAS RUSSELL
Mother: FRANCES
And their marriage............
THOMAS RUSSELL
Spouse: FRANCES MC CORMICK Family
Marriage: 28 JAN 1822 Saint Chad, Lichfield, Stafford, England
Regards
Sandra
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This is turning into a real puzzle now!!
John Harvey is on the 1841, 1861 and 1871 Census records
So where is he in 1851???
In 1851, he would have been roughly 20yrs old.
Could someone search outside of Staffs. for him??
John Harvey was born in Armitage, Staffs in c1831
Please help me before i go mad..............!!!
Sue ???
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Hi
1851 is searchable by name index only I'm afraid and as I'm sure you can appreciate there are ALOT of Harveys on it.
He might be in Lichfield if that's where Fanny is from.....I will have a quick look in Lichfield to see if he is there but I'm afraid I can't promise anything.
Sandra :)
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I cant wait for 1851 to come online!!!
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Neither can alot of people ;D
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Hi
John might be easier to trace if you apply for the marriage certificate. It will state on the certificate where they were living at the time of their marriage in 1853.
You have his parents in 1841 that was very kindly found by DMP (and believe me, the 1841 is no tea party to search through) so if he isn't with them in 1851 he could be absolutley anywhere :o
Regards
Sandra :)
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I've found details of their marriage in 1853 which states that they were living in Armitage, Staffs at that time. (I've also ordered the certificate)
The only reason I can think for him not being in Staffs in 1851, is that he moved around for work. As many of the other members of my family, who were Coal Miners in Staffs, moved around to other countys eg Derbyshire.
But a big THANKS!! to everyone that has helped so far and keep trying for me ;)
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Hi
This is probably to late but I found your request by accident. I was looking to see if I could find information on Johns shoe making business when I found it. John and fanny where my 3 times great grandparents. In 1851 John was a shoemaker apprentice to Mr John Arnott.
First name(s) John
Last name Harvey
Relationship Aprentice
Marital status Unmarried
Sex Male
Age 19
Birth year 1832
Occupation Shoemaker App
Birth place England
Birth town Handsacre
Birth town as transcribed Handsacre
Birth county Staffordshire
Birth county as transcribed Staffordshire
House name Chorley
Street -
Town -
Parish Farewell
City -
County Staffordshire
Hamlet Chorley
Parliamentary borough -
Municipal ward -
Registration district Lichfield
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 2014
Folio 168
Page 5
Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain, England
Hope this is the correct info
Regards Dennis Roy Harvey (Roy)