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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Monaghan => Topic started by: chenwil on Tuesday 11 October 05 05:25 BST (UK)
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I am looking for info on the gray line. I was given some info a couple of years ago. My gran was born in Lismacreark co. Mon.
Samuel Gray m. Agnes McDowell Apr 23 1875
-Margaret Jane Mar 17 1877
William Dec 12 1878
Hannah ? ?? 1880
David June 4 1885
Aggie Jan 1 1887
Mary Feb 2 1888
Samuel Aug 3 1890
Sarah Letitia -my gran -Aug 7 1892
Robert James Aug 3 1894
Joseph Jan 1 1900
The info I was given before Sam & Agnes is names only...no dates.
Sarah Letitia met James Yeates who we believe was born in the Belfast area. My mother, Mary Irene was born in Scarva, co. Down in Aug 1924. We believe her older brother Thomas was also born in Ireland. By 1930 they had moved to Canada...
The Yeates side is even harder to work on...
Anyone know these Grays ???
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Correction...we aren't sure if Thomas was the first or second child...
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Chenwil:
Sorry I can't help on the Gray side but maybe a little on the Yeates.
William Yeates Lisdoonan Saintfield 1901_Census Ouley Division
James Jnr Yeates Oughley Saintfield Tithes_1834
Widow Yeates Oughley Saintfield Tithes_1834
William Yeates Oughley Saintfield Tithes_1834
James Yeates Ouley Saintfield 1901_Census Ouley Division
Thomas Yeates Ouley Saintfield 1901_Census Ouley Division
Mary A Yeates Saintfield Main Street Saintfield 1901_Census Saintfield Division
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Saintfield is only a few miles south of Belfast and Yeates is not a very common name so this might be your Yeates family. Here is a link to Ros Davies site whereyou can read more of the area and see some pictures including the churches. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/PHOTOSwords/SaintfieldAll.htm
Ros also has extensive listings of names with info and you will find Yeates here. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/YZ.htm
Good luck with your Gray searching and I hope this info on Yeates is of some help.
Pat
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Hi, I'm afraid I can not give any real positive assistance but one of my ancestors from County Monaghan did marry a ? GRAY. My LEMON family from Killycronaghan, County Monaghan had a daughter born 1875 cc - (I don't even know her christian name) but she married a Mr. GRAY. I will be watching this spot to see if you make progress as it is possible that we may connect. Good luck. Elizabeth
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Hi elizabeth,
My understanding from a minister who did a lot of research for his Gray line, was that the Grays in our family were the Grays of the Hollow....in the same town were the Grays of the Hill.... the hollow group were primarily workers/farmers..the Hill, had money
will keep you in mind.....
I have connected with someone on the Yeates side so my attention has been there...
Cheryl
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Thank you Cheryl, I will keep an eye on your progress. I emigrated from Ireland some 34 years ago and it was a very elderly Aunt (still alive) who gave me the information quite recently about her Aunt having been married to a GRAY. I may be able to find out which GRAY family he came from and if so I will get in touch with you again. In the meantime I wish you the best of luck with your research. Kind regards, Elizabeth
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Hi, just came upon your post. I am Bertie Gray of Lismacreark, son of Robert James Gray (brother of your grandmother). Your grandmother visited our home in the 1950's. If you read this send your details to our postal address - still Lismacreark, Dunraymond, Co. Monaghan, Ireland! and I would be more than happy to reply and help as much as I can.
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Hello Bertie, I do not know for sure whether I actually relate to your GRAY family. However, I now do have a little more information on my relationship to the GRAY's. My Gt. Grandparents, John LEMON and Harriet WILLIAMSON had a daughter Mary Elizabeth LEMON who married a Thomas Frederick GRAY on 5th May 1891 at Armagh Third Presbyterian Church. They had a son called Johnny who was born in Co. Antrim 1896 cc and found at the time of the 1911 Monaghan census, living with his Grandparents John and Harriet LEMON. Elizabeth Gresty (nee Gordon), W. Australia
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Hi Cheryl,
Sent an email to you this morning.
Chris Gray (for Bertie Gray)
I am looking for info on the gray line. I was given some info a couple of years ago. My gran was born in Lismacreark co. Mon.
Samuel Gray m. Agnes McDowell Apr 23 1875
-Margaret Jane Mar 17 1877
William Dec 12 1878
Hannah ? ?? 1880
David June 4 1885
Aggie Jan 1 1887
Mary Feb 2 1888
Samuel Aug 3 1890
Sarah Letitia -my gran -Aug 7 1892
Robert James Aug 3 1894
Joseph Jan 1 1900
The info I was given before Sam & Agnes is names only...no dates.
Sarah Letitia met James Yeates who we believe was born in the Belfast area. My mother, Mary Irene was born in Scarva, co. Down in Aug 1924. We believe her older brother Thomas was also born in Ireland. By 1930 they had moved to Canada...
The Yeates side is even harder to work on...
Anyone know these Grays ???
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Yes, I'm in touch with Ross Gray & with his help I have copied the Church Records of Legnacreeve / Braddox to CD. The Gray, Ross & associated families you listed are included on the these Church Records - you can contact me directly on (*)
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Hello Jack
My name is Christine Casey Robinson...I understand you have copied old records from parish churches in Monaghan ...I had a post on Irish Roots web and I was looking for info on Gillilands - Maxwell's we think from Ballybay or Clontibret I'm hopeful it was you who said your wife's sister married a Gilliland from Ballybay...??? is it possible for you to post any info regarding marriages or births from before 1820's...The earliest name we have is a John Gilliland born around 1820 - a farmer who married Jane / Margaret Maxwell - marriage around 1840's we think ...they had three kids that we know of...Joseph Gordon, George Ernest and Rachel....John died in a Quarry accident around 1850's and the family were allowed to live in the gatehouse of Clontibret parish church..by the minister Swanzy...that's all we know and would love to get a bit of earlier information eg parents / siblings of John Gilliland and Jane/ Margaret Maxwell and accurate dates of birth and marriage if possible ....would very much answer a lot of brick walls for us too.....All of our modern Gilliland family live mostly in Glasgow Scotland which started with George Ernest... up to and including my mother....Barbara Gilliland (Casey) Thank you Jack... kind regards... Christine Casey Robinson
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Yes, the Church Records of 14 North Monaghan Churches are now copied - the data in these old books was tremendous, especially the Session Books & Vestry Books. My wife's sister is Mrs Gilliliand attending Derryvally Church, at Ballybay - her other sister is Mrs Graham of Clontibret attending the Church of Ireland there - her husband is Church Warden so assisted with the Records. My direct contact is (*) so you can e-mail me there directly
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Thank you Jack
Thats great news and good info, I hope to come to Ireland to see some of the old records and sites of my ancestors when I return from Australia later this year....I admire the work you's have done to transcribe the old records to digital form, such a valuable resource, and I bet a wealth of information - well done, I will try to get a look at the online resources when I figure out how to
access the personal messaging system, thanks for your response and hopefully I will connect with you again at some point soon ....
Kind Regards - Christine Casey Robinson
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Mary Gray dau, William Gray, Lismacrerk, Monaghan married James Wilson son, Samuel Wilson, Cornasoo, Kilmore, on 12th Aug 1884 also by Rev James McAskie
Hannah Gray dau, William Gray, Lismacrerk, Monaghan married John Groves son, William Groves, Arclintagh, Clontibret on 8th April 1873 also by Rev James McAskie
Samuel Gray son, William Gray, Lismacrerk, Monaghan married Agnes McDowell dau, Thomas McDowell, Tullyhumphry on 23rd Nov 1875 Rev James McAskie
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Jane Turbitt dau, Robert Turbitt, Clonlonan, Tyholland married George Ernest Gilliland son, John Gilliland + Margaret Maxwell, Castleshane on 10th Feb 1874 by Rev J McAskie
The Maxwells came from Newbliss area and are a bit difficult to track down as they left the county. I'm working on rounding up the Maxwells as they come in and out of my line at various stages but indirectly via in laws... There are quite a few Gilliland families around the area.
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I just found this on google when looking for the place in ireland where my grandmother Mary Gray was born Feb.2 1888. Her dad was Samuel Gray and her mother was Agnes McDowell. She was baptized May 20,1888 in the Second Clontibret Presbyterian Church. I've signed up to this website to contact you but I'm not sure if I'm doing this correctly or if you will see this since this post is so old. Please let me know if you get this. KCG
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Well you have Samuel's siblings etc plus there are quite a few graveyards photographed at http://goo.gl/e8hNP where you will see text files, you could try looking at these and use 'search' to see if any of the names you are after turn up then you can get links in next column to view gravestones for any you find.
Also www.google.ie will get you different results than .com or .au etc plus you have 1901/1911 Census at http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ just put in Surname, then click on More Search Options and put Monaghan in County of Origin and you'll get them wherever they were in 1901 and 1911.
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Thank you so much. :D
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No problem...don't forget to check Gray too and that the ages people gave at census time were not always accurate!!
I've a few g/yards photographed as you will see on IGI but normally I don't read most of them just snap away so not sure what is there!! Hope you find something there...
Dave
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My Gray's are from this line. My grandmother is Hannah Gray daughter of Samual and Agnes. I do have some information to the Yates family. My dad's aunt married a Yates. From what I heard they owned a newspaper and moved to New Jersey. I also have pictures of Hannah and her 2 sisters. Let me know if you want more information. Other Grays and Yates from this line I would love tohear from you as I have been looking for a long time and only now just found Samual Gray my great grandfather.
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My Gray line starts wth Hannah, who is my gm. I have old photos of her in the late 30's. with friends and family from Ireland.
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Hi Home Again......
Sent you a p.m. hope you get it.....
and KCG... I don't think I ever replied to you... I haven't been on this site in a long time..... and had several computer crashes in the last year....
It's time for me to back to the reasearch !!!
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Hello. While updating my familytree information I have just come across your posting. Your forebears Samuel and Agnes Gray are listed on my tree. My maternal great grandfather was John Gray a brother of Samuel, who married Margaret Hawthorne. Strangely I notice another branch married a Yeates connection who moved to Scarva, County Down, where my father John Patton was born.
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On Grays I have just this tiny bit:
Mr. Gray married Margaret (b. 1826, died 27 August 1898 at Longfield, Co. Monaghan).
Mr. Gray and Margaret had Mary Jane Gray (I have that she too die din 1898, so perhaps only one of them died on this date.) Mary Jane Gray married George Harrison (1856-1887) of Drumakill, Co. Monaghan. George was the son of Hugh Harrison (died about 1859) and his second wife, Anne Hale.
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Late to the party but I also want some more info on the Grays if anyone made any progress.
I am related to George, Maisie, Essie, Tommy and Catherine Gray who were siblings born around 1920-30. George, Essie and Tommy all lived and died in Lismacreark with no children.
Don't know who their parents are.
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Welcome to RootsChat :)
Samuel Gray m. Agnes McDowell Apr 23 1875
Samuel Gray married Agnes MADOLL on 23 November 1875 at 2nd Clontibret Presbyterian Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1875/11221/8113574.pdf
Hannah ? ?? 1880
Hanna Gray born 26 February 1883. MMN McDowell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02747/2009432.pdf
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My Gray's are from this line. My grandmother is Hannah Gray daughter of Samual and Agnes.
1901 census
House 5 in Lismacrerk (Rockwallace, Monaghan)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Monaghan/Rockwallace/Lismacrerk/1635370/
Hannah Gray (age 25) in Portadown in 1911 census.
House 14 in Market Street (Portadown Urban, Armagh).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Portadown_Urban/Market_Street/300614/
Hannah Gray married Andrew Thomas McReynolds on 15 October 1912 at 1st Clontibret Presbyterian Church. Her mother Maggie Jane? was one of the witnesses.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09931/5610629.pdf
Children-
Annie Eleanor May McReynolds 1913
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01456/1594832.pdf
Leslie Oswald McReynolds 1915
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01382/1568499.pdf
Ruby McReynolds 1921
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1921/01194/1497010.pdf
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I’m in Canada and this is my great grandparents, if you get this message, please send a private message. My grandmother was Hannah grey McReynolds.
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