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Title: Pauper
Post by: molar on Sunday 09 October 05 11:42 BST (UK)
I eventually found my gg grandfather in 1851 (the name had been mis transcribed >:()
He is George McVeety  born Ireland <1823> . Under occupation it says "Pauper formerly cotton weaver." I presume this means he was receiving some form of help from the parish. Where do I need to look for any records ??? The parish was All Souls Manchester.

Linda
Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: uk2003 on Sunday 09 October 05 12:44 BST (UK)
Hi Linda

Think this was Ancoats area of Manchester - Have a look at this link to manchester library http://www.manchester.gov.uk/libraries/arls/registers/prlista.htm it may help you

Regards
Ken
Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: molar on Sunday 09 October 05 13:52 BST (UK)
Thanks Ken
Had a look at the link. It only has birth and marriage for All Souls. Have to keep searching.
Thanks
Linda
Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: uk2003 on Sunday 09 October 05 15:29 BST (UK)
Hi Linda

Why not try emailing Manchester archives & Local studies http://www.manchester.gov.uk/libraries/arls/index.htm I have found them helpful in the past at locating info.

Regards
Ken

Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: EcclesCake2003 on Monday 07 November 05 19:20 GMT (UK)
 

  Hi Linda try looking  for the workhouse in the Manchester area he could have been an  inmate of one of them at the time of the census.





Regards
Ecclescake2003
Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: molar on Monday 07 November 05 19:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks, I do have him on the 1851 census and it is there that he is listed as pauper. I e-mailed the archives library and they said that there would not be any further records anywhere. So it seems I won't find out any more. He died in 1860 aged 37 of asthma.
Linda
Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: behindthefrogs on Monday 07 November 05 20:46 GMT (UK)
Its worth contacting the church directly.  Some churches have deposited their registers but still have some of the contents of the parish chest.  They may have minutes which could help you.

David
Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: JAD on Thursday 17 December 15 10:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Linda,

I have some info on George McVeety (elder brother of my 2x great-grandmother Isabella).  He lived at the following addresses :-
Spencer Street, Ancoats in 1841
19 Providence Street, New Cross (M/C) in 1851
5, Stretford Street, Hulme (M/C) in 1852
21 Love Lane, Ancoats in 1853
3, Butler Street, Manchester in 1854
Henry Street, Manchester in 1855
1, Cuthbert Street, Newton Heath (M/C) in 1855

His widow Margaret (nee Ballam) lived at :-
40, Woodward Street, Manchester in 1862
19 Regent Street, Salford in 1876

He married Margaret Ballam at Manchester Cathedral on 30 August 1840 after which they had 7 (poss 8) children :- William, Isabella, Elizabeth, Henry, George, Catharine, George
He died in Manchester aged 37 in 1860.
His siblings were :- William, Henry, Mary, Isabella, Eliza, John
Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: JAD on Thursday 17 December 15 10:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Linda,

Just posted a reply to you.  In my haste I forgot to put my name, sorry it`s John.  George McVeety`s parents were William McVeety (bC1792 in Donegal) & Elizabeth (or Isabella) Spencer.  My 2x great-grandmother was Isabella McVeety (bC1830 in Galway) & she married Andrew Diley at Manchester Cathedral in 1856.  Hope this helps.

regards,

John
Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: molar on Sunday 27 December 15 16:19 GMT (UK)
Hi John
Many thanks for sharing your information.I haven't been doing much family history for a couple of years (both myself and my husband parents have passed away ) and I seemed to loose enthusiasm without anyone to share the info with,my brothers are not really interested!However my Christmas present this year has been an ancestry subscription and I am looking forward starting again so your post has been very timely.
 My grandmother was Catherine McVeety b 1877. Her father was Henry McVeety and mother Hannah Etchells. Her grandparents were George McVeety and Margaret Balaam.
By 1895 both Catherine's parents had died and she left Liverpool on SS Southwark to travel to America. My father told me she went to stay with an uncle ,however she didn't settle and returned to Manchester by 1899 when she married Charles Bowden. My father was the youngest of their 10 children. I haven't been able to find out if the uncle she went to stay with was from the McVeety side of the family . The address she went to stay at was 2340 Biddle street in the Chester area of Philadelphia.

regards

Linda

Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: JAD on Monday 28 December 15 09:33 GMT (UK)
Hi Linda,

Glad the info was of some help.  In my records I have 8 children of Catherine & Charles Bowden (William Henry, Maggie, Emily, Elsie, Charles, George, Leslie, Arthur) who am I missing? Not surprisingly being Ireland I have come to a dead end in trying to find any info there as regards our McVeety origin.  Just that my 3x great grand parents were William McVeety (b1792 in Donegal) & Elizabeth (or Isabella) Spencer (b1801 in Ireland).  Do you know the story about Mary Georgina McVeety who emigrated to Australia, married a Scot named Andrew Templeton, a gold prospector & something of an explorer who supposedly discovered 3 rivers in Queensland & named them after her, following her death giving birth to twins?  The rivers - "Mary", "Georgina" & "Templeton".

regards,

John
Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: molar on Monday 28 December 15 09:54 GMT (UK)
Hi John
The 2 missing are Joseph born 1913 died 1915 and my dad Albert born 1920 died 2013.
I hadn't heard the story about Australia.
Unfortunately my grandmother Catherine died before my parents married, dad was abroad serving in the Royal Engineers, however as he was the only one not married Catherine's wedding ring was saved for him so it was used when my parents married and now it is my daughters wedding ring, wonder if the gold came from Australia!
regards
Linda
Title: Re: Pauper
Post by: JAD on Monday 28 December 15 12:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Linda,

Thanks for that.  Mary Georgina McVeety was the daughter of William (b1820 in Carlow, brother of George & Isabella) & his wife Mary Woods.  William & Mary with daughters Mary Georgina & Margaret emigrated to Australia in 1861.  Mary Georgina (b1850 in Manchester) married Andrew Templeton at Rockhampton (Queensland) in 1870 & she died in child birth in 1881 (buried at Charters Towers near Cairns, with headstone).  There is another claim for the naming of at least one of the three rivers (by a local Queensland governor, after his daughter) but for me the three names (not least Templeton) seem too much of a coincidence.  So it`ll do for me!

regards,

John