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Title: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: vi on Wednesday 05 October 05 21:34 BST (UK)
Looking for a Matthew Kelly ,Glassblower. Living in Warrington occupation Glassblower. Any help appreciated.
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 06 October 05 12:02 BST (UK)
Hi
   
              Wecome to rootschat  :)

  We will try to help if, have you anymore info at all, like age, place of birth, other family members, or other census details. Where and when did he die?

peterbennett

   
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: vi on Friday 07 October 05 20:07 BST (UK)
Dear Peter,My great/greatgrandfather JohnKelly married in Castleford Yorkshire 1853. On the Marriage Certificate Grooms Fathers name Matthew Kelly. John was 20 yrs of age when he was married.I  presumed Matthew to be at-least 40 plus. When i got John Kelly in 1851 census he has Warrington, Lancashire as his place of birth.. I have looked on the IGI and found a Matthew Kelly married to a Bridget Ryon.Warrington.Which i have not been able to follow up as yet. I am sorry i have no other information other than that.
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 08 October 05 11:18 BST (UK)
Hi Vi

         I have searched through the 1851 without finding a Matthew Kell(e)y, there are a few Bridgets but none over 34 years old.

       I did see in the Cheshire BMD a death for a Matthew Kelly in Warrington 1847. http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/

     Unfortunatly there is no name index for the 1841 so its to long a search for me to go through the lot.

    The Matthew that died may have an address on his death certificate, I would be willing to search that out.

regards

peterbennett  
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: vi on Saturday 08 October 05 18:08 BST (UK)
Dear Peter,Thank you very much for trying for me.1853.Matthew would still be alive.As stated on the Marriage Certificate.[ When i have sent for other certificates it states if the Father was deceased] I have tried looking up the census on line.So i know how hard it would be to find him. I thank you,for your help. Matthew could well have moved to another area too.As i have found other members of my family tree,have done.Especially working in the Glass Making industry. Cheers Peter, I will just have to put Matthew Kelly on hold for now. Vi
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 09 October 05 11:39 BST (UK)
Hi Vi  :)

      It is important to remember that when a couple were asked for details of fathers name and occupation they were not asked if he was alive or not,I have found that if it says deceased then he will be dead, if it say's nothing it just means the question was not asked.

    Please do not assume he was alive.  :-\

peterbennett
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: vi on Sunday 09 October 05 14:52 BST (UK)
Dear Peter, Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.I did just assume ,Matthew was dead.Another lesson learned. So if i may take you up on your very kind offer to search this Matthew on the Cheshire bmds. I would be very pleased. Many thanks Vi.
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: peterbennett on Sunday 09 October 05 18:19 BST (UK)
Hi Vi

         What I meant was that if you obtained an address from the death certificate I could use it to find him,unfortunatly I can't get details of BMD certificates without buying one.

sorry if I didn't make what I was trying to say very clear  :-[

peterbennett
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: vi on Monday 10 October 05 13:29 BST (UK)
Dear Peter, My fault not yours. I will send for the certificate as soon as possible. Vi
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: vi on Friday 14 October 05 15:14 BST (UK)
Hi Peter, I sent for the copy of the Death Certificate for Matthew Kelly 1847.WARR/12/10.  I received a very nice letter from the Register Office telling me that it was for a child. So i will have to try elsewhere. At least it has settled my curiosity. Many thanks Vi..
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: CathyB on Thursday 03 May 12 12:20 BST (UK)
Good evening
I just came across this message and wondered if you had found any more informaton. Matthew Kelly was my 4 x great grandad and I am a decendant of his son John. I would love to find any information on this family.
Thanks
Cathy
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: CathyB on Friday 24 May 13 02:44 BST (UK)
Hi this is a message for Vi who sent me a pm this morning. I do not seem to be able to reply for some reason. The only info I have on Matthew Kelly is that he was a glassblower and the father of John Kelly who married Priscilla Warren. I would love to get some more information about him.
Cathy :)
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: heatherjulie on Friday 24 May 13 07:08 BST (UK)
Hi CathyB

Welcome to Rootschat!

You need to make one more post before you can send a  personal message. Just reply to this post and then you will have made the three needed.
 ;)
Heather
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: CathyB on Friday 24 May 13 07:12 BST (UK)
Thanks very much Heather
Cathy :)
Title: Re: Warrington 1841/1851 census look up please
Post by: vi on Friday 24 May 13 11:33 BST (UK)
Good Morning.
 Cathy, I am also a descendant of John Kelly and Priscilla Kelly.  I will be very happy to forward all I have found of them to you..
Vi ...