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Title: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Gaye on Tuesday 04 October 05 23:13 BST (UK)

 :) Hello

My ggggrandmother, Mary Bassano (nee Waterfield) was the sitter
in Joseph Wright's 1781 portrait of MARIA AND HER DOG SILVIO which now
hangs in the Derby Museum.

http://www.alliednz.co.nz/gabpersonal/MaryWaterfield(BASSANO).jpg

Does anyone have the family tree of Joseph Wright?

There are Wrights married to other Bassano family members after this
date and I wonder if there is a connection.

Regards All
GAYE - NZ

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Brett on Wednesday 12 October 05 00:17 BST (UK)

Hi Gaye,

Are you related to Alexander Bassano, noted London photographer?

Regards and best wishes,

Brett

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Gaye on Wednesday 12 October 05 00:35 BST (UK)

YES - he features in the family tree - but I do have some quirky bits
with parts of his line.

 ;D

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Brett on Wednesday 12 October 05 00:43 BST (UK)

Thanks, Gaye.  My interest is in the photographer side, rather than the BASSANO family, although I realize that there was a BASSANO family in Derby.  I hope to compile a biography for Alexander Bassano at some stage, and would appreciate any information that you have on him.

Regards and best wishes, Brett

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Brett on Wednesday 12 October 05 00:46 BST (UK)

By the way, did you realize that he took the original photograph of Lord Kitchener on which the famous "Your Country Needs You" First World War recruiting poster was based?



Regards, Brett

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Brett on Wednesday 12 October 05 00:57 BST (UK)

And here is a self portrait of Alexander Bassano (1829-1913) from the National Portrait Gallery.



Regards and best wishes, Brett

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Gaye on Wednesday 12 October 05 01:23 BST (UK)

Thanks for that Brett - I had read about the Kitchener pic
and did get a copy of his self portrait.

Very interesting lot these Bassanos - the original 5 brothers came from
Italy where they worked for the Doge - at the invitation of Henry VIII
and lived rather well in England down through the generations.
All pretty much married well too!    Fascinating tree I'm pulling
together.

Cheers for now,
GAYE

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Brett on Wednesday 12 October 05 01:27 BST (UK)

I found this snippet on an older version of the biography from the NPG site, which may be of interest to you:

Quote

Baptised Alessandro Bassano and a direct descendant of the Duc de Bassano, secretary to Napoleon, the photographer later anglicised his name and married an English woman, Adelaide Lancaster, and had three children.

Regards and best wishes, Brett

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Gaye on Wednesday 12 October 05 21:38 BST (UK)

ahhhhhhhhh now that is what I needed!
thank you so very much!!!  The Peerage doesn't confirm this however

Hugues Bernard Maret (1763-1839), French statesman and
publicist, was born at Dijon. He gained the title of Duc de Bassano.
He held the office of Minister of Napoleon I

Child of Hugues Bernard Maret, Duc de Bassano and Marie Madeleine Lejeas Charpentier:
Hortense Eugenie Claire Maret+   b. c 1812, d. 15 Dec 1882
She married 3rd Baron Ashburton, Francis Baring.

Children of Hortense Eugenie Claire Maret and Francis Baring, 3rd Baron Ashburton:
Hon. Marie Anne Louise Baring   b. 1833, d. 8 Apr 1928
Alexander Hugh Baring, 4th Baron Ashburton+   b. 4 May 1835, d. 18 Jul 1889
Hon. Denzil Hugh Baring   b. 1837, d. 26 May 1886

The photographer Alexander/Alessandro Bassano b.1829, son of Clement Bassano b.1798, fishmonger, and Elizabeth Barnes (1800-1893) I am sure, was part of the greater Italian Bassano family - but as I say, I have a few links to iron out yet. 
All in good time!

Cheers Brett

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Brett on Monday 17 October 05 02:10 BST (UK)

Thank you for the revisions to Alexandro Bassano's parentage.  I will bear that in mind when I get round to compiling the biography.

Regards and best wishes,

Brett

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Gaye on Monday 17 October 05 16:20 BST (UK)

Clement Bassano = Elizabeth Barnes
had the following children:
Elizabeth b Mar 1820 = (?) Norman
Camilla b May 1822
Louisa b 1823 = Frederick George Boddy
Clement b 1824 = Elizabeth (?)
Teresa b 1826 = John Boyd Kinnear
Alexander b May 1829 = Adelaide Rose Lancaster
Josephine Maud b 1832 = (?) Horsefall
(5 Dec 1821 from the Proceedings of the Old Bailey Ref: t18211205-131
CLEMENT BASSANO. I am a fishmonger, and live in Cranbourne-street. On the 30th of October, Bidgood brought the prisoner into the shop with a piece of salmon, which was mine, I lost such a piece.)
1861-1881 Elizabeth widowed lives at 17 Howley Place,St Mary's Paddington

Alexander and Adelaide married 1850
had the following children:
Adelaide Fanny b 1851 = Ludwig George Barber
Clement George Alexander b 1853
Camilla Teresa b 1861 = Charles Sergeant


 ;D

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Brett on Monday 17 October 05 20:52 BST (UK)

Thanks Gaye.  I have the following census records, in case you don't already have them:

1861 Census: 5 Chrysell Road, Lambeth SRY PRO Ref. RG9/361/36/31/178:
Alexander BASSANO   Head   M   M   31   Artist - Photographer Employing 5 Men   MID London
Adelaide BASSANO   Wife   M   F   32      MID London
Clement BASSANO   Son      M   8   Scholar   MID London
Louise BASSANO   Dau      F   10   Scholar   MID London
Camilla BASSANO   Dau      F   2      MID London
Ann BORNHARD?   Serv   U   F   18   House Servant   NTT Nottingham

1871 Census: 72 Piccadilly, St George Hanover Square LON PRO Ref. RG10/101/4/2/4:
Alexander BASSANO   Head   M   M   41   Photographic Artist   MID London
Adelaide BASSANO   Wife   M   F   41      MID London
Adelaide F.L. BASSANO   Dau   U   F   20      MID London
Clement ?. BASSANO   Son   U   M   18      SRY Lambeth
Camilla T. BASSANO   Dau   U   F   12      SRY Lambeth
Grace M. BROWN?   Rel   U   F   8      MID London
Laura CHAMPS?   Serv   U   F   19   Servant Agricultural   KNT Puddle Dock

1881 Census: 12 Montague Place, Marylebone LON PRO Ref. RG11/148/74/13/32:
Alexander BASSANO   Head   M   M   51   Artist   MID St James
Adelaide BASSANO   Wife   M   F   51      MID St Clements
Clement BASSANO   Son   U   M   27   Undergraduate   SRY Lambeth
Camilla BASSANO   Dau   U   F   20      SRY Lambeth
Jane CROW   Serv   U   F   35   Domestic Servt. Cook   MID Westminster
Mary SITTERS   Serv   U   F   26   Domestic Servt. Housemaid   DEV Crediton
Edith FRANCIS   Serv   U   F   18   Domestic Servt. Housemaid   MID Paddington

1891 Census: 19 Montague Road, Richmond SRY PRO Ref. RG12/619/137/13/71:
Alexander BASSANO   Head   M   M   61   Photographic Artist   LON St James'
Adelaide BASSANO   Wife   M   F   61      LON St Clements' James
Clement BASSANO   Son   S   M   33   Photographic Artist   LON Lambeth
Camilla SERJEANT   Dau   M   F   29      LON Brixton
Hermione SERJEANT   GDau   S   F   1m      SRY Richmond
Margaret DOCWRA?   Serv   S   F   26   Cook Domestic   CAM Barton
Elizabeth BAILEY   Serv   S   F   20   Housemaid Domestic   WIL Overton
Maria MIDDLETON   Serv   S   F   Trained Servant   LON Islington

1901 Census: 75 Central Hill, Croydon SRY PRO Ref. RG13/649/144/15/78:
Alexander BASSANO   Head   M   M   69   Artist in Water Colour   LON St James
Adelaide R.A. BASSANO   Wife   M   F   69      LON St James
Hermione A. SERGEANT   GDau      F   10      SRY Richmond
Sybil C. SERGEANT   GDau      F   9      LON St Johns Wood
Felicie MAISONNEAUVE   Govness   S   F   18   Governess   FRA Toulouse
Maude E.M.H. SMITH   Serv   S   F   18   Servant Domestic   SRY South Norwood

1901 Census: 2 Helena Vs, Fairfield Rd, Edmonton MID PRO Ref. RG13/1261/85/42/269:
Charles SARJEANT   Head   M   M   36   Clergyman (Church of England)   COR Lanivet
Camilla T. SARJEANT   Wife   M   F   40      LON
Lucy SANDERS   Serv   S   F   27   General Servant - Domestic   MID Edmonton

Regards and best wishes, Brett

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Gaye on Monday 17 October 05 23:13 BST (UK)

 :-*  You are a thoughtful soul many thanks

I had gathered these - you couldn't find them in
1851 Census either ???   hmmmm I wonder where they are hiding in that year.
I am hoping to find a Census with Clement Senior alive!
Very likely the surname is mistranscribed - I've invariably found it as
Bassens, Bassang, Barsane, Bossona ... arghhhhhhh

But I figure they were still somewhere in the greater London area
as son Alexander marries in 1850 Lambeth, Surrey, and their daughter
Adelaide is born Marylebone in 1851

*always hopeful*

GAYE

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Brett on Monday 17 October 05 23:16 BST (UK)

Hi Gaye,

I don't have access to the 1851 Census ... yet, but as soon as I do, I'll have a look.

Regards and best wishes, Brett

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Gaye on Monday 17 October 05 23:49 BST (UK)

OK Brett , Neat O
Another snippet of info with address in Surrey:

Clement George Alexander Bassano
3 March 1853  27 Albert Terrace, Southwark, Surrey, England, BMD
Birth Certificate #BXCB000538
Father : Alexander Bassano, clerk at House of Commons
Mother: Adelaide Rose Kinsley Bassano, formerly Lancaster
Informant: Alexander Bassano, father of 27 Albert Terrace London Road Southwark
registered : 13 April 1853
 
He died aged 45 years March Quarter 1899 London C. 1c 12

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Brett on Tuesday 18 October 05 00:16 BST (UK)

Thanks Gaye,

That at least provides a location for him 2 years after the census.  Interesting that he should have been a clerk at the House of Commons, and I wonder how he made the step from there to photographer.  An interesting story to be unearthed, I'm sure.

Regards, Brett

Title: Bassano family of London
Post by: msafier on Wednesday 09 January 13 00:32 GMT (UK)

Hi Gaye, I am doing some research on Alexander Bassano, the London photographer. There is an exhibition of his work planned for October 2013, the sesquicentenary of his death. Please feel free to get in touch. I see you have already had exchanges with my friend Brett in Tauranga. Cheers! Marcel, Brisbane.

Title: Re: Joseph Wright, Artist of Derbyshire
Post by: Hugh Wright on Thursday 23 February 23 11:45 GMT (UK)

Hi Gaye,

Have noticed that you were in 2005 seeking a family tree for Joseph Wright of Derby.  We the Wrights from Great Longstone and Eyam have not found any tenuous links to Joseph Wright within our family tree.

Here is the link for it in a book, The Life and Works of Joseph Wright, A.R.A., Commonly Called "Wright of Derby." by William Bemrose.  Without checking, I think a Bemrose married a member of his family.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bJtDvgAACAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=snippet&q=longford&f=false

The family tree is between pages 4 and 5 of the book.

Good luck

Regards

Hugh