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Hi there
I would very much like a look up of the 1871 census of Ilkley if possible please for the following.
Thomas Smith aged 34 born Carlton, Skipton, Yorks
Elizabeth Smith born Addingham aged 31
Their children were John Smith aged 5 & Edie Smith aged 11 months both born in Ilkley.
I have the above information from the census but the source (Whafedale web site) did not give the reference no. or Thomas Smith's occupation.
I am almost sure that the above is the John Smith I am looking for. My John Smith was supposedly born in Addingham but I'm beginning to think he was actually born in Ilkley then moved to Addingham. His father was Thomas Smith a mason. I am hoping that the above Thomas was also a mason in the 1871 Ilkley census which would mean I was on the right track.
Regards
criggy
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Hi Criggy
They dont seem to be there. I looked through Ilkley twice with no result. Then I thought maybe the site got the location wrong, that maybe they were on the same 1871 census piece as Ilkley but no luck. Perhaps contacting the site somehow for the info?
All the best
Linda
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Hi Linda
Many, many thanks for looking (twice). I do appreciate your help enormously.
Didn't think there would be any problems with this one, sorry, especially as the reference quoted 1871 Ilkley. I always seem to be taking one step forward and two steps back as far as the Smiths are concerned!
Will go back and query the references as you suggest.
Thanks again
criggy
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I had a good trawl but noone that matched tried for best matched but sorry no luck sandie
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Hi Sandie
It was really very kind of you to check up for me (and Smiths too!). I'm very grateful.
Very strange though that they don't appear anywhere. Will definitately have to go back to that original reference.
Thanks again for trying.
Cheers
criggy
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I have just noticed your post about Smith, I have the 1871 on cd & the reference number for the family is:
Ilkley piece number 4303 folio 11.
The cd does not give occupation i'm afraid but Edie is down as Edith on my disc, maybe someone with the census will be able to find it know
Regards
Sandra
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Have also looked on the 1851 cd & the following family are at Addingham:
Piece number 2279 Folio 304
Thomas Smith 48 born Carlton.
Elizabeth Smith 22 born ..
John Smith 17 ,, ,,
Mary Alice Smith 10 ,, ,,
Eliza Smith 8 ,, ,,
Hope this helps
Sandra
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Hi Criggy
Following on from ginny
RG10/4303 folio 11 page 15 Ilkely
Thomas Smith head mar 34 stone mason b. Carlton
Elizabeth wife mar 31 B.Addingham
John son 5 scholar b. Ilkely
Edith dau 11mths b. Ilkely
Must have missed them when I went through last time. Sorry about that.
All the best
Linda
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Hi Sandra, Hi Linda
Excellent work, thanks very much! I'm very grateful to both of you.
Thomas WAS a mason after all. Nice to confirm I'm on the right track.
Thanks also for the 1851 Addington info - could be useful. Will have to go away now & do some checking..
Once again many, many thanks.
Regards
criggy
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Criggy
Sorry I missed off Thomas Smith 14 born Carlton on the 1851 info I posted.
So this looks like it is your family.
Regards
Sandra
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Hi Sandra
Thanks for that. I was wondering if they could have had a Thomas in between John & Mary & you have now confirmed it.
Once again many thanks for your help. Much appreciated.
Regards
criggy
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Hi there
I would very much like a look up of the 1871 census of Ilkley if possible please for the following.
Thomas Smith aged 34 born Carlton, Skipton, Yorks
Elizabeth Smith born Addingham aged 31
Their children were John Smith aged 5 & Edie Smith aged 11 months both born in Ilkley.
I have the above information from the census but the source (Whafedale web site) did not give the reference no. or Thomas Smith's occupation.
I am almost sure that the above is the John Smith I am looking for. My John Smith was supposedly born in Addingham but I'm beginning to think he was actually born in Ilkley then moved to Addingham. His father was Thomas Smith a mason. I am hoping that the above Thomas was also a mason in the 1871 Ilkley census which would mean I was on the right track.
Regards
criggy
Hi criggy,
I also have the Thomas Smith of Addingham (stonemason ) and his son John Smith who later moved to Blackpool and St Annes. Which of John Smiths children are you descended from? I have got stuck with Thomas Smith from Carlton and can't get any further back.
Hari
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Hi Hari
Nice to hear from you. It would be lovely to swop information as I have now accumulated quite a bit of information on this side of the family.
John Smith of Addingham, then Blackpool and St Anne's, was my husband's grandfather. His mother was Joan Smith, the youngest child of John Smith and his second wife Christiana Harrison (nee Thackwray). John's first wife was Annie (nee Wilkinson) of Addingham and their children were Janet, Tom, Joe, Bill, Marjorie and Ethel. Christiana also had children with her first husband.
How are you related to this family?
Regards
criggy
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Hi criggy,
Thanks for your reply.
John Smith was my great grandad. My grandad was Joe Smith, who after the first world war moved to Manchester. He married Annie Blundell and had six children, the oldest of whom was my dad Joseph Smith born on Queens Avenue Near Old Trafford cricket ground. I was born in Stretford but only lived there for a year.
Have you visited Addingham? My dad took me there and we found Thomas Smith's grave along with 5 I think of his children who died young. I have the information somewhere. May be able to send info via another route. Only just joined rootschat last week after finding your request of many years ago. I googled Thomas Smith - stonemason and up came your rootschat. Couldn't believe my eyes!
I visited Blackpool and St Annes the other day enroute to the Lake District for a short break and found John Smith's grave in St Annes Churchyard. I have a photo of John Smith with his first wife Annie Wilkinson and their young children around about 1900.
Best wishes Hari
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Hi
John Smith's father was Thomas Smith. He married Elizabeth Hartley 23.10.1859 at Addingham. They had 7 children, George Watkinson, Fred, Tom, Annie, John, Edith and Alice all born at Addingham. Thomas died 2.12.1873 at Addingham of Tuberculosis and Elizabeth then married Henry Taylor, her 2nd cousin.
Thomas was bp 21.8.1837 at Carlton in Craven, the son of Thomas Smith and Alice nee Brown. They married at Carlton 2.3.1824. They had 8 children, George, Elizabeth, Margaret, John Brown, Thomas, William, Mary Alice and Eliza, all baptized at Carlton. After the death of Alice in 1846 Thomas married Mary Atkinson (nee Potts) 31.7.1853 at Addingham.
Thomas was bp 13.11.1803 at Carlton in Craven, the son of George Smith and Alice nee Seed. George and Alice married 11.8.1796 at Holy Trinity Church, Skipton. George was of Bell Busk, Kirby Malham and Alice was of Skipton. They had 5 children, Nancy (Anne), Margaret, Thomas, Alice and Susannah (Susan) all baptized at Carlton in Craven.
Did you manage to take any photographs of the gravestones by any chance?
With regards
criggy