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I am hoping someone may be able to see if a William Breeze, b.1824 Norfolk, England emigrated to the USA at any time.
We have his mother remarrying and moving to he USA on the "Emerald Isle" inNovember 1854 and would like to know if he travelled with them or joined them out there.
The only records we can find, at present, in the UKis mention of his birth.
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Cots, What is his mother's married name?--Genealiza
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Hi,
Mother's married name was Cath(Kath)erine Jewson. She travelled with her husband, Richard, and children and family from Richard's first marriage.
We also wonder whether Cath's family from first marriage travelled as well.
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I looked at the immigration records today and found a William Breeze, age 27, leaving Liverpool 21 Apr 1851 on the Conqueror. I must admit, I didn't look at all of the entries they gave, but this one had the highest ranking of parameters that I gave. It may be yours. Also, I have found a William Breeze in Onondaga County New York with family in 1860 and in Cayuga County New York in 1880 with the same family. I cannot find him in 1870. Maybe he took a trip back to England during that time. The 1880 census you can view at <www.familysearch.org>. Here is the 1860 transcription------Genealiza
1860 New York Onondaga, Manlius
Dwell# 116 Family# 116
William Breeze, 36, male, white, day laborer, $1000, $250,
Eng
Hannah " , 35, female, white, Eng
Robert " , 16, male, white, " , attends school
William " , 12, male, white, " , attends school
Christopher " , 9, male, white, " , attends school
Henry J " , 6, male, white, " , attends school
Alice " , 4, female, white, "
John " , 11/12, male, white, "
The 1880 census shows John's birthplace as NY. I imagine the other children are born in NY, also.
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Many thanks Genealiza,
Sounds as if this might be the right family.
We know that Catherine's second husband had two sons by his first marriage who went to the USA before their father. This ties up that William could have gone with them.
Thanks again for your help
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I looked at the immigration records on Ancestry today and found a William Breeze, age 27, leaving Liverpool 21 Apr 1851 on the Conqueror. I must admit, I didn't look at all of the entries they gave, but this one had the highest ranking of parameters that I gave. It may be yours. Also, I have found a William Breeze in Onondaga County New York with family in 1860 and in Cayuga County New York in 1880 with the same family. I cannot find him in 1870. Maybe he took a trip back to England during that time. The 1880 census you can view at <www.familysearch.org>. Here is the 1860 transcription------Genealiza
1860 New York Onondaga, Manlius
Series M653 Roll 829 Page 160
Dwell# 116 Family# 116
William Breeze, 36, male, white, day laborer, $1000, $250,
Eng
Hannah " , 35, female, white, Eng
Robert " , 16, male, white, " , attends school
William " , 12, male, white, " , attends school
Christopher " , 9, male, white, " , attends school
Henry J " , 6, male, white, " , attends school
Alice " , 4, female, white, "
John " , 11/12, male, white, "
The 1880 census shows John's birthplace as NY. I imagine the other children are born in NY, also.
Hi Again Genealiza,
Does the ships records show who travelled with the William Breeze you mention.
Also could you see if there were any JEWSONs on the same ship.
The family names seem to tie up as William's father, who died before William was 10 was Robert and William's eldest is also Robert. We are searching hard here to tie these all together.
Any further help you can give would be very much appreciated.
Thanks, Bruce
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Bruce, There weren't any Jewsons travelling on the Conqueror with William Breeze. It appeared that he was traveling alone.----Genealiza
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Mother's married name was Cath(Kath)erine Jewson. She travelled with her husband, Richard, and children and family from Richard's first marriage.
We also wonder whether Cath's family from first marriage travelled as well.
I didn't see Cath's first married name so can't check for you. Do you have the family on EMERALD ISLE to NY Nov. 15, 1854? They are
Richard (Sr) 50/51, ship---
Cath, 50/51, wife
Francis 18
Bartholomew 17
Richard (Jr) 14
Hannah 12
Eliz? 29 housewife
Elizabeth 5
John 4
Rebecca 2 1/2
Jains?? John?? 2 1/2 (the age is in a different col. and further to the right in the DIED ON THE VOYAGE column is the comment "of diarrhea" so this little one died on board ship)
If you find your family in the 1870 census you can see if they naturalized, and if they did, you can hunt for their nat records -- see http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ for help. Click on NY if you think they settled there, and then check the online nat records FIRST, then read how to get offline ones if you don't find them
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Hi Eillo,
Many thanks for the list.
Elizabeth 29 was the DIL of Richard. She was married to Richard's son, Jarvis, by his first wife.
What we do not know is when Jarvis and his brother Fisher Jewson travelled to the USA.
They both went earlier than their father.
We have found them all living in Fond Du Lac, Wisconsin in the 1860 census but, as yet, do not know when the two brothers moved across the pond.
William Breeze was their step brother so we hoped that might all have travelled together.
Any help on when Jarvis & Fisher Jewson travelled would be greatly appreciated.
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The 1900 census for Fond du Lac Wisconsin shows Jarvis immigrating in 1854. I haven't checked his brother. Did you know that you can use census records to help you find immigration and
naturalization years for an ancestor.?
The 1900, 1910 ,1920 and 1930 census identify citizenship status, with notations showing the individual was an Alien, or had started the Naturalization process or had his final
papers. The year of immigration is also shown. 1920 also nicely provides a year of naturalization.
You can read more about the value of census records in your search for an immigrant ancestor at
http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/census.shtml
There are great clues in the 1870 census too! If your ancestor has a check mark in the column "Male Citizens of the United States of twenty-one years of age and upwards" you
have a clue that naturalization took place before 1870 :-)
To find out what questions were asked on various census records see http://allcensusrecords.com/
Armed with these years (be careful to add a year or two on either side of what is said in the census records) you can start your search a bit more easily
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I looked at the immigration records on Ancestry today and found a William Breeze, age 27, leaving Liverpool 21 Apr 1851 on the Conqueror. I must admit, I didn't look at all of the entries they gave, but this one had the highest ranking of parameters that I gave. It may be yours. Also, I have found a William Breeze in Onondaga County New York with family in 1860 and in Cayuga County New York in 1880 with the same family. I cannot find him in 1870. Maybe he took a trip back to England during that time. The 1880 census you can view at <www.familysearch.org>. Here is the 1860 transcription------Genealiza
1860 New York Onondaga, Manlius
Series M653 Roll 829 Page 160
Dwell# 116 Family# 116
William Breeze, 36, male, white, day laborer, $1000, $250,
Eng
Hannah " , 35, female, white, Eng
Robert " , 16, male, white, " , attends school
William " , 12, male, white, " , attends school
Christopher " , 9, male, white, " , attends school
Henry J " , 6, male, white, " , attends school
Alice " , 4, female, white, "
John " , 11/12, male, white, "
The 1880 census shows John's birthplace as NY. I imagine the other children are born in NY, also.
Hi again Genealiza,
I have been researching in the UK for this family and think I might have them.
The William Breeze and family look good but a better confirmation would be if we could find Hannah and, at least, the eldest two children, travelling to the USA too.
I have a marriage certificate for a William and Hannah in 1844.
The two eldest children you list would have been born about 1845 & 1848 respectively.
The third could have been born in the UK ot the USA depending on when Hannah travelled out.
Would it be possible to check for travle details of Hannah Breeze born 1825 ?
Many thanks in advance.
Bruce
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hi there,just a small piece of advice,having tried to trace families that moved abroad,a lot of them simply disappear
from records.some move state but some even change their name,hope this is not the case for you.good luck
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Hi Bryso,
We hope not in this case.
We have a family listed in the 1860 census in New York and again in the 1880 census, still in New York.
We just need to find when the wife and kids travelled over if, in deed , we have the right connections
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Bruce, I had a good search at the local library. I found both Hannah's immigration and also the 1870 census. The index on the census lists the family as Bruse, probably took the double "e" as a "u" so that is why I couldn't find them on the index I use. Here is what I found----Genealiza
Arrival 8 Dec 1852
Ship: Middlesex
Liverpool to New York
male 9 Rob. Brees Eng Eng Eng
female 28 Hannah " " " "
male 5 William " " " "
male inf Christopher " " " "
1870 New York Cayuga Fleming Page 343
Dwell# 138 Family# 137
Bruse, Wm, 47, male, white, farmer, 7000, 1000, Eng,
parents of foreign birth, male citizen 21 or over
Hannah, 47, female, white, keeping house, Eng,
parents of foreign birth
Christopher, 20, male, white, Eng, parents of
foreign birth
James, 18, male, white, New York, parents of
foreign birth, attended school within the year
Alice, 14, female, white, New York, parents of
foreign birth, attended school within the year
John, 12, male, white, New York, parents of
foreign birth, attended school within the year
Hannah, 4, female, white, New York, parents of
foreign birth
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" "
male inf Christopher " " " "
1870 New York Cayuga Fleming Page 343
Dwell# 138 Family# 137
Bruse, Wm, 47, male, white, farmer, 7000, 1000, Eng,
parents of foreign birth, male citizen 21 or over
What a good clue genealiza has found! The check mark in the column "Male citizens 21 or over" means that the individual had naturalized. So by 1870 William had his nat. papers.
You can now search for his records in New York and see what is on them. http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ will get you started. Be sure to go to NEW YORK then ONLINE RECORDS as there are many NY nats online. If he isn't there, follow the instructions for offline searching
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I didn't see Cath's first married name so can't check for you. Do you have the family on EMERALD ISLE to NY Nov. 15, 1854? They are
Richard (Sr) 50/51, ship---
Cath, 50/51, wife
Francis 18
Bartholomew 17
Richard (Jr) 14
Hannah 12
Eliz? 29 housewife
Elizabeth 5
John 4
Rebecca 2 1/2
Jains?? John?? 2 1/2 (the age is in a different col. and further to the right in the DIED ON THE VOYAGE column is the comment "of diarrhea" so this little one died on board ship)
Hi Eillo.
I had been given some of this transcription before but not the bit about the baby 'dying on board' We believe his name was Jarvis and he was only 2 months old at the time of the voyage.
I had assumed there was a problem as I had found the family in the 1860 Fond Du Lac census but baby Jarvis was not listed. This now confirms that he never made it on the trip.
Mant thanks, Bruce
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I went back and had another look at the manifest image. It does look like "Jarvis" now that you have said the name. The age however is very clear and it is 2 1/2 exactly the same as Rebecca.
So it looks like little Rebecca had a twin Jarvis who died on board
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1900 New York Cayuga Auburn Ward 9
Series T623 Roll 1012 Page 45
118 Division St. Dwell #196 Family #234
Breese, Christopher, head, white, male, b. Sept. 1849, 50, marr 27
yrs, Eng, Eng, Eng, immig 1850, 49yrs, in US, NA,
railroad freight laborer, can read, write, spk Eng,
rents home
Margarate, wife, white, female, b. May 1850, 50, marr 27
yrs, mother of 0 children/ 0 living, Scot, Scot, Scot,
immig 1867, 32 yrs in US, nurse, unemployed 7
months, cannot read, write, spks Eng
Corbett, Ida J, dau, white, female, b. Jan 1876, 24, marr 5 yrs,
mother of 2 children, 2 living, NY, Eng, Scot, can read
write, spks Eng
Oliver, s in law, white, male, b. April 1871, 29, marr 5 yrs,
Eng, Eng, Eng, immig 1887, 13 yrs in US, NA, day
laborer, can read, write, spks Eng
Evaline G, gr. dau, white, female, b. Aug 1896, 3, single,
NY, Eng, NY
Herbert Alfred, gr. son, white, male, b. Apr. 1898, 1, single,
NY, Eng, NY
1910 New York Cayuga Auburn Ward 9
Series T624 Roll 928 Page 33
24 Van Patten Street Dwell #95 Family #102
Corbett, Oliver, head, male, white, 40, marr 1, 14 yrs, Eng, Eng, Eng
immig 1888, NA, spks Eng, foreman, forge shop, work-
er, can read, write, owns home, mortgaged
Ida J, wife, female, white, 35, marr 1, 14 yrs, mother of 2
children, 2 children living, NY, Eng, Scot, spks Eng, can
read, write
Evelyn G, dau, female, white, 13, single, NY, Eng, NY, spks
Eng, can read, write, attends school
Herbert A, son, male, white, 11, single, NY, Eng, NY, spks
Eng, can read, write, attends school
Breese, Margaret A, mother in law, female, white, 58, widow,
mother of 2 children, 2 living, Scot, Scot, Scot, immig
1872, spks Eng, nurse, private families, worker, not
out of work on Apr 15, 1910, out of work 12 weeks in
1909, cannot read or write
Perry, Wallace W, boarder
Nina I, boarder
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1920 New York Cayuga Auburn Ward 9
Series T625 Roll 1089 Page 85
24 Van Patten Street Dwell 196 Family 204
Corbett, Oliver, head, owns home, mortgaged, male, white, 49,
marr, immig 1888, NA, 1895, can read, write, Eng, Eng,
Eng, spks Eng, foreman, forge shop, worker
Ida, wife, female, white, 44, marr, can read, write, Eng,
Scot, spks Eng
Evelyn, dau, female, white, 23, single, can read, write, NY,
Eng, NY, spks Eng, bookkeeper, rope shop, worker
Herbert, son, male, white, 21, single, can read, write, NY,
Eng, NY, spks Eng, desiner (designer?) rope shop,
worker
Breese, Margaret, mother in law, female, white, 66, widow, immig
1859, alien, can read, cannot write, Scot, Scot, Scot,
spks Eng
1930 New York Cayuga Auburn Ward 9
Series T626 Roll 1411 Page 208
24 Van Patten Street Dwell #137 Family # 139
Corbett, Oliver, head, owns home, value $3800, male, white, 59,
marr, age at 1st marr 25 yrs, can read, write, Eng, Eng,
Eng, immig 1888, NA, spks Eng, foreman, forge shop,
worker, at work yesterday, not a veteran
Ida J, wife, female, white, 55, marr, 20 yrs age at 1st marr,
can read, write, NY, Eng, Scot
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Look at <www.familysearch.org> for the 1880 census. Look at Robert Bruce, Kankakee, Illinois---Genealiza
1900 New York Cayuga Auburn Ward 2
Series T623 Roll 1012 Page 65
39 Hamilton Ave Dwell #75 Family 89
Breeze, Robert O, head, white, male, b. Apr 1844, 56, marr, 33 yrs,
Eng, Eng, Eng, immig 1853, 43 yrs in US, NA, policeman
, can read, write, spks Eng, owns home, mortgaged
Sarah, J, wife, white, female, b. Jan 1842, 58, marr 33 yrs,
mother of 6 children, 6 children living, NY, Eng, NY, can
read, write, spk Eng
Edith A, dau, white, female, b. Dec 1879, 20, single, Ill, Eng,
NY, can read, write, spk Eng
1910 New York Cayuga Auburn Ward 2
Series T 624 Roll 928 Page 67
39 Hamilton Ave Dwell 45 Family 54
Breese, Robert C, head, male, white, 66, marr 1, 43 yrs, Eng, Eng,
Eng, immig 1853, NA, spks Eng, policeman, city, worker
can read, write, owns home free
Sarah J, wife, female, white, 68, marr 1, 43, mother of 6
children, 6 children living, NY, Eng, NY, spks Eng, can
read, write
Chester, R H, gr. son, male, white, 13, single, NY, Ill, NY,
spks Eng, can read, write, attends school
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1920 New York Cayuga Auburn Ward 2
Series T625 Roll 1089 Page 53
39 Hamilton Ave Dwell #221 Family #253
Breeze, Robert C, head, owns home, free, male, white, 75, marr,
immig 1853, NA, 1856, can read, write, Eng, Eng, Eng,
spks Eng, retired
Sarah J, wife, female, white, 69, marr, can read, write, NY,
Eng, NY, spks Eng
Bruce: I read the 1930 Ward 2 page by page and found the following living at the 39 Hamilton Avenue home. The name is hard to read, but the 1880 does say there is a "Belden" among the children. Can't find them in previous years.-----Genealiza
1930 New York Cayuga Auburn Ward 2
Series T626 Roll 1410 Page 234
39 Hamilton Avenue Dwell #311 Family 243
Breeze, Beiden (Belden?) G, head, owns home, value $4500, has a
radio, male, white, 59, marr, 31 yrs of age at 1st
marr, can read, write, Ill, Eng, NY, spks Eng, moulder
engine worker, worked yesterday, not a veteran
Iva B, wife, female, white, 48, marr, 20yrs of age at 1st
marr, can read, write, NY, NY, NY, spks Eng
Audrey, dau, female, white, 22, single, can read, write, NY,
NY, NY, spks Eng, teacher, rural school district,
salaried, at work yesterday,
Ralph, son, male, white, 21, single, can read, write, NY, NY,
NY, spks Eng, chauffeur, bus(?) driving, worker not at
work yesterday, not a veteran
Arthur, son, male, white, 18, single, attended school, can
read, write, NY, NY, NY, spks Eng
Elizabeth, dau, female, white, 16(?), no school, can read,
write, NY, NY, NY, spks Eng, usher, theatre, worker,
worked yesterday
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Hi Geneliza.
Many thanks for all this information.
It is a great help.
Best wishes, Bruce
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The 1880 census lists the 6 children of Robert and Sarah. Below is the information on the previously recorded "Belden" and a brother, "Leroy".
1870 Illinois Kankakee Norton
Series M 593 Roll 238 Page 196
Dwell 110 Family 106
Breese, Robert, 23, male, white, farmer, $3000 real estate, $400
personal estate, b. Eng, parents of foreign birth
Sarah, 24, female, white, keeping house, b. Eng, parents of
foreign birth
Bertie, 2, male, white, b. Illinois, parents of foreign birth
(this may be Charles)
1900 New York Cayuga Auburn Ward 8
T623 Roll 1012 Page 12
70 Orchard Street Dwell 207 Family 237
Breese, Leroy, head, white, male, b. May 1874, 25, marr 6 yrs, b. Ill
Eng, NY, railroad brakeman, can read, write, spk
Eng, rents home
Margaret, wife, white, female, b.Aug 1872, 27, marr 6 yrs,
mother of 2 children, 2 living, NY, Can, Eng, can read,
write, spks Eng
Chester, son, white, male, b. Oct 1896, 3, single, NY, Ill, NY,
spk Eng
Ruth, dau, white, female, b. Feb 1899, 1, single, NY, Ill, NY
1900 Pennsylvania Luzerne Wilkes-Barre Ward 11
Series T623 Roll 1436 Page 16
127 Hazel Street Dwell 169 Family 169
Haldeman, J R, head, w, ma, b. 1864, Pennsylvania
Edith E, wife, w, f, b. 1867, "
Breese, Belden, boarder, white, male, b. Aug 1870, 29, marr 2/12 yr,
Ill, Eng, NY, iron moulder, can read, write, spks Eng
Grace, boarder, white, female, b. Mar 1877, 23, marr 2/12
yr, NY, NY, NY, laundres, can read, write, spk Eng
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1910 New York Tioga Newark Valley
Series T624 Roll 1084 Page 118
Dwell 107 Family 110
Breeze, Belden, head, male, white, 38, m2, 8 yrs, Illinois, Ill, Ill,
moulder, spreader factory, worker, out of work 18
weeks in 1909, can read, write, spks Eng, rents home
Iva, wife, female, white, 28, m1, 8 yrs, mother of 3 children,
3 children living, NY, NY, NY, can read, write, spk Eng
Rolland, son, male, white, 4, single, NY, Ill, NY
Audrey, dau, female, white, 2, single, NY, Ill, NY
Ralph, son, male, white, 1, single, NY, Ill, NY
1920 New York Tompkins Groton
Series T625 Roll 1265 Page 239
Cayuga Street Dwell 168 Family 227
Breese, Belden J, head, rents home, male, white, 49, marr, can
read, write, Ill, Ill, Ill, spks Eng, moulder, bridge shop,
worker
Iva B, wife, female, white, 36, marr, can read, write, NY, NY,
NY, spks Eng, home., high school
Roland L, son, male, white, 14, single, attends school, can
read, write, NY, Ill, NY, spks Eng, student, high school
Audry M, dau, female, white, 12, single, attends school,
can read, write, NY, Ill, NY, spks Eng, student, high
school
Ralph L, son, male, white, 11, single, attends school, can
read, write, NY, Ill, NY, spks Eng, student, high school
Arthur R, son, male, white, 9 3/12, single, attends school,
student, kintergarden class (?)too old for this
Elizabeth M, dau, female, white, 6 6/12, Tennessee, Tenn-
essee, Tennessee (Most likely wrong--the family
groups following this one are from Tenn. and it looks
like the enumerator just filled in the student/high
school/kindergarden and the place of birth spaces
after the interview)
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Can someone lookup Elizabeth Jewson on the 1900 US federal census for Fond Du Lac, WI please? The parent information may solve a problem. My wife’s line has a brickmaker b. 1795 in March, Cambridgeshire, England named James Driver. He and his wife, Sarah, christened the following children in March Parish Church.
Elizabeth 1819 died 1821
John 1822
James 1823
Elizabeth b.24 July 1824, chr. 1824, died 15 Aug 1900 Esterbrook, Fond Du Lac, marr. Jarvis Jewson ??
William 1828
Martinmass (Martell on 1841 census) 1829
Fisher 1823
William F 1834
George 1836 (on my wife’s line)
William 1838
I believe Elizabeth married Jarvis Jewson 26 May 1848 in Norfolk, England and I have found a 1880 US Census record for James Driver in Fond Du Lac where he is designated “FatherL” (father-in-law) and living with Jarvis Jewson (spelt as Jawson). So when did he he leave England? I have him and Sarah living in Terrington-St-Clement on the 1861 English census but with no entry on the 1871 census. However there is a civil death registration for Sarah Driver in the Wisbech district Jan-Mar 1867 so I doubt he left before that. Perhaps the US Federal 1870 census could confirm his presence in USA? Also did any of his other children also cross the Pond?
Now comes the complications. As Nutkin recorded 20 Jul 05 the civil registration records Jarvis Jewson as marring Elizabeth Betts (not Driver) June quarter 1848. My information on a Driver marriage comes from the IGI database. I’ve checked parish records (via Cambridgeshire FHS web site ) without any luck to confirm either of these surnames. Elizabeth could have been a widow when she married Jarvis or used both names or even, bizarrely, the registrar may have mistaken a variation of ‘Elizabeth’ as a surname. But whatever the explanation the IGI ‘Driver’ surname fits nicely with James’ designation as father-in-law on the 1880 US census. However we need to consider another possible relationship between James and Jarvis that of uncle and nephew. IGI records James as marring Sarah Jewson, Norfolk 1833. (See a copy at http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=darlacooper&id=I26656)
This is a good match to the Sarah who was Richard Jewson’s sister and Jarvis Jewson’s aunt. However this is dated 10 years after Elizabeth’s birth in1823. So James may have an earlier wife also named Sarah (that’s the name on the March parish records). I’m hoping the US federal 1900 census may shed some light.
I am happy to receive comments etc.
David
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Hi David,
Jarvis Jewson was the brother of the Richard Jewson I am researching. The whole family left the UK in the early 1850s.
I have him in Fond Du Lac on the 1860 census.
I will try to find my records to see if I can find the record. I am sure that somewhere he is mentioned in this forum in a thread about the Jewsons.
Do a searcg in Rootschat for Jewson. The threads will be found.
One note,
If you go to the USGENWEB site for Wisconsin and look through the census records you will find all the Jewsons in the 5th Ward of the city. However they are transcribed there as Jenson.