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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Midlothian => Topic started by: Boongie Pam on Sunday 15 August 04 11:41 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
Thought I'd post my new interests in associated names - these are all collateral lines but may help me untangle a puzzle. I know there are people out there researching the same people as I've seen bits of trees on Worldconnect (rootsweb).
Thomas Aitken (1803-1872) and Isabella Lind (1802-1877) had the following children in Kirknewton:-
George Aitken (1830-1856)
William Aitken (1832-1891) m Elizabeth Wardlaw
Elizabeth Aitken (1834-?) m Alexander Binnie
Jane Aitken (1836-?) m James Aitcheson
Thomas Aitken (1837-?) m 2nd marr to Agnes Haig
James Aitken (1839-?)
Isabella Aitken (1841-?)
Margaret Aitken (1844-1921) m John Thomson (my line)
Robert Aitken (1846-?) m 1. Isabella Cherry 2. Isabella Fleming
Mary Aitken (1851-?)
If you have any connections get in touch I've plenty of source material and I'm very very curious about where these folk where baptised if at all. I know they don't appear on the Kirknewton OPR that I have access to so most of my info is from Marriages and Deaths.
Happy digging,
Pam
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Hello Pam,
Your mention of Jane Aitken who married James Aitchison caught my eye. This couple were the g granddparents of my husband, Iain Aitchison, and this is the firs time I have found adetails of Jane's parents. Any further details of them and their ancestors would be gratefully received.
Jane and James had a number of children amongst whom was Robert, born in Cramond who moved South and married Jane Beaufoy from Wolverhampton. They in turn had several children including Robert, my father in law, who married Mary MacKinnon. If you are interested in further details of this branch, please let me know.
Pat
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Hiya Pat,
Wonderful to here from you ;D
I have a number of images that I can send you - please PM me your email and I'll send them to you.
Primarily I found Jane's marriage (1859) to James which lists all the parents. While I was at the GROS in Edinburgh I looked up a few births of their children to confirm the 1881 census entry is them...and it was.
66 Lauriston Place, Edinburgh
James Aitchison M 43 Head Edinburgh Cattle Dealer
Jane Aitchison M 43 Wife Kirknewton, Edinburgh
Robert Aitchison 16 Son Crammond, Edinburgh Butcher
Elizabeth Aitchison 14 Dau Crammond, Edinburgh General Servant
Margaret Aitchison 12 Dau Crammond, Edinburgh Scholar
Thomas Aitchison 9 Son Dalkeith, Edinburgh Scholar
Charles Aitchison 5 Son Dalkeith, Edinburgh
George Aitchison 3 Son Dalkeith, Edinburgh
William Aitchison 2m Son Dalkeith, Edinburgh
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I should of said - my website (in my signature) has the full knowledge I have on this family. If a birth says "Abt" then the info is from a census. I may have more on paper but it won't be much.
Cheers,
Pam
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Hi Pam,
Afraid I am very ignorant... what is "PM" my email address?
Pat
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Sorry Pat - I'm being all jargoned up - my apologies. I've sent you an email now.
Pam
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Hello Pam, I too hope to learn more concerning Aitken. I doubt if my small contribution is helpful but "you never know" My grandmother Eliza Aitken married
my grandfather Peter Hay June 4 1897 in Edinburgh and died either during or shortly after my father's birth July 1906 Edinburgh.
I know very little about my Edinburgh family but am trying to start a search.
(just recently discovered RootsChat)
regards, Peter
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Hiya Peter,
Do you know who Eliza's parents were? Do you have the marriage cert this will name both her parents?
Check out this thread for finding it if you haven't...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html
I'll then have a look to see if it fits with any of mine. I think 3 of the above Aitkensended up in Edinburgh so you never know ;D
All the best,
Pam
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hi
i believe my Aitken family came from Kirknewton.
Janet Aitken christened 1799 Kirknewton/East Calder married 1824 Kirknewton/East Calder Midlothian to James Brown christened 1799 Kirknewton/East Calder.
Janet Aitken parents were James Aitken and Margaret Brown. Does anyone have anymore information to these people.
regards cindy
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Hi Cindy,
A very warm welcome to Rootschat. I wonder if Janet is related to the Listonsheilds Aitkens. These are the "other" family other than my Pathhead Aitkens that I can find in Kirknewton.
Do you have any of your family in 1841?
I'll have a look at my records when I get home tonight to see if I can see anything.
Pam
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Hi Pam.
yes i did find them in the 1841 census living in Edinburgh.
Janet Aitken and her husband James Brown only had 3 children that i can find.
James born 1827 St Cuthberts Edinburgh. Janet c1833 and Elizabeth c1836 cant find a birth /christening but the 1841 census states they were born in Midlothian.
Also listed with them in the census is a Alexander Gillies aged 18yrs born Midlothian and Mary Gillies aged46yrs born Midlothian.
I am sure my Janet is mostly likely daughter of James Aitkens and Margaret Brown unless i can be proved.
wrong. The only Janet Aitken in the IGI from Kirknewton/east Calder is daughter to James Aitken and Margaret Brown.
In the 1851 census Edinburgh Janet listed her birthplace as Kirknewton.
cindy
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Good news for you.
I've just popped into the National Archives before getting my butty and I have information on your family.
Are you familiar with the ScotlandsPeople website?
They have downloadable wills. I suggest you need to download the will for James Aitken dated 29th December 1843.
This is the James Aitken of Listonshields. He is on the 1841 census which you can find at FREECEN.
This is a great will by the way, about 5 or 6 pages long with lots of information. Primarily for you it names his wife as Margaret Brown or Aitken.
To further solidify the connection he names his children...
Living at Canongate in Edinburgh is Janet Aitken or Brown AND Margaret Aitken or GILLIES (she might be in Portobello?). He names more children than that but I didn't note them all.
This will confirms your IGI connection to the 1841 family. I didn't get long enough to read it all so I still don't know if it connects to my family down the road at Pathhead!
Wills cost £5 to download but I think this will gives you so much info it is worth it.
All the best,
Pam
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I think this is the house... it's near Balerno postcode EH14 7JL so you can find it on multimap. I'm not sure if it is in the parish boundary fro Kirknewton though so it may not be! Need to check an old map.
(http://www.chooseacottage.co.uk/propertyimages/main/SAAL-W01.jpg)
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Hi Pam,
Thanks a million. Thank you for doing that for me.
I have once, gone into that website but realise you had to pay per view.
I have a problem though i dont have a credit card. Is there another way i can get the will by slow mail. Do you know the address where i can send a letter and pay for it.
I am not sure what muti map is? Is Balerno a place/suburb of Kirknewton?
thanks again Cindy
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Balerno is a small village in the parish of Currie which neighbours Kirknewton parish.
I'm not sure about snail mail wills I can see what I can find.
Cheers,
Pam
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Thanks Pam,
I have to ask you a question, i have this feeling that my Janet Aitken and her husband James Brown maybe cousins. I know that Brown is a popular surname but James parents being John Brown/Margaret Carfrae and Janets parents being John Aitken and Margaret Brown and the area being Currie.
My question is did cousins marry alot in those days?
Cindy
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... Is Balerno a place/suburb of Kirknewton? ...
Listonshiels is on the edge of the Pentland Hills (290m / 900feet above sea level). Presumably it is a farm.
On looking at different ages of old maps, it can be seen to change parishes. Originally it was in a detached portion of Kirkliston Parish, quite a few miles from the main body of the parish, and across a county boundary. On later maps it is in Currie Parish. It probably changed parishes in about 1891-1892 as a result of the Local Govenment (Scotland) Act 1889 that tidied up the detached parts of parishes and counties, and parishes that straddled county boundaries.
On reading the 1840s Statistical Accounts for Scotland - Kirkliston Parish, Listonshiels is described as follows. "There is a portion of the parish, entirely separate, named Liston Shiels, lying on the slope of the Pentland Hills, which was annexed quoad sacra, many years ago, to the parish of Kirknewton. This portion of the parish is bounded on the east and south-east by Pennicuik; on the north and north-east by Currie; on the west by Midcalder; on the south by Linton, lying in the county of Peebles." (their spelling of Penicuik, not mine)
So, in terms of civil parish (quoad civilia), Liston Shiels was originally in Kirkliston, then Currie. But in terms of church parish (quoad sacra) it was annexed to Kirknewton.
Go to www.streetmap.co.uk and enter the postcode EH14 7JL as given in one of the posts above to see it on a current map.
ADP
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Thanks for that ADP - I was getting a wee bit confused as it seemed to be in a border zone.
P ;D
PS Cindy, I'll PM you about the will.
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Hi Cindy,
Another snippet for you. I'd forgotten about this.
26/03/1790 - This day James Aitken farmer in Listonshields son of Thomas Aitken parish of Newlands there of Peebles and Margaret Brown his spouse had a son baptised named Thomas witnesses: Thos Bell & Alexr Aitken
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,9235.0.html
I posted it ages ago, gets you back a generation!
All the best,
Pam
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Hi Pam
I haven't been on line for a while however, I do have an Aitken in my line, George Aitken bn 1828 in Broughton, Midlothian, married Janet Cairns. They were married July 8, 1851 St Cuthberts, Edinburgh, Midlothian. My records show that George died in 1882. In 1852 they traveled to Australia on the William and Mary (I believe my records show). The only other item I have picked up was that his father was Robert Aitken and mother Isabella Borthwick. They had a number of children of which one was my ggrandfather.
I am sure it was also your mother who picked up the Brough family bible some time back.
Not sure if there is any connection but certainly worth looking at.
Sharleen
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Hi Pam,
William Aitken (1832-1891) m Elizabeth Wardlaw
These were my 2nd grandparents! Any idea where they were buried?
Jan
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Hi Jan,
I haven't found their burial specifically - I would assume Kirknewton Kirkyard but I don't know sorry.
Pam
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Hi Pam, I’ve been through all the burial records there, but to no avail….
Thanks,
Jan x