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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Dorset => Topic started by: Zelley on Monday 26 September 05 08:59 BST (UK)
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As I breeze through the families and neighbours of my ancestors in Weymouth, the following streets are of importance for much of the time period beyond 1850 and likely before.
Starting with No. 1 Hope street, Louisa Rose Zelley would be born there in May 1881, but the family would emigrate
to Canada in 1883, so the young Rose wouldn't get to know her Weymouth kinfolk or the neighbours. Of interest, in the 1900's
No. 1 would become a place called the "White House". Funny thing at one time Thomas WHITE and Ann Charlotte BELLAMY
lived on Hope street, but had nothing to do with the community
facility known as the White House.
Rose's uncle William George BAKER would wed one of the Storey girls and move to Bournemouth. Not far from Hope Street was Cove Row where at one time we could find Edward STOREY
and the one called Mary AYLES. But on Cove Street, I wonder
how many folks would have stayed at Mary MABEY's "Old Room Inn".
At one time the old ex-Coastgurd member Richard ZELLEY and
Mary Ann lived at Trinity Street. And in the late 1900's.
I wonder how many folks popped into the tea house at No. 11
or the take away next door! Over the years, many a folk would call Trinity Street or Trinity Road home be it The JETSY family
or the widow Rebecca BUCK. Old Rebecca would pass away
at about 82 in 1891.
Another family in the area was the HONEYBUN family that
would have connections to such families as LOVELL, SYMES,
and BOWDITCH
Of course, if we start looking into the LOVELL families,
that would also take us to such places as The Fleet, Chickerell
and Langton Herring. Then what about the other local families
such as CHICK, MARSHALLSAY, BOWRING, PEARCE, RANDALL, & JOLLIFFE.
With many tangled branches of the many greater Weymouth families is it not surprising that some would be connected to a
MAYO, KELLAWAY, COX and JEFFRIES.
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Zelley
It was good to read your writings about 'Hope tp Trinity' in Weymouth. Some of the Jolliffes you mentioned would have been my ancestors.
The road names you mentioned are very familiar and there is still an 'Old Rooms Inn'
Debbie
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Zelley
It was good to read your writings about 'Hope tp Trinity' in Weymouth. Some of the Jolliffes you mentioned would have been my ancestors.
The road names you mentioned are very familiar and there is still an 'Old Rooms Inn'
Debbie
Do you also have a connection to the LOVELL name
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Zelley
I have a Lovell connection only in that Sarah Lovell is married to Arthur Jolliffe. The information I have was passed to me by someone else who has done a lot of work on the Jolliffe name.
Debbie
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We could add the Hope Quay to Cove Row to our little slice of Weymouth.
It is most interesting following the various families some are connected by blood or marriage. How I like discussing those such as George John FLISHER.
one of the grandsons to Thomas WHITE and Ann Charlotte BELLAMY,
and a cousin of Elizabeth Bellamy ZELLEY. Or the various members of the VALLENS/VALENCE - MABB family. or the life and times of William George BAKER (the shoemaker). We could TRIP ALONG and TALK ABOUT the LOVELL - HONEYBUN Branch. Or the trials a tribulations of members of the PURCHASE family and their ZELLEY/ZEALY connections. But the AYLES and PEARCE families would be of interest.
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As this is December, I wonder how many December
birth, marriages and deaths we can list for Hope to Trinity or even Cove Row and the street they called High Street.
To prime the pump:
1878: December Thirtieth at No. 1 Hope Street
saw the birth of Elizabeth Kate Zelley.
If we were to travel through the decades, we could find some of her great great grandchildren is Washington State in the Pacific Northwest
- I believe Johnston or Johnstone is one of the names
scattered about between Spokane & Seattle.
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Arthur Jolliffe lived in Cove Street (Cove Row?) in 1861 and 1871. He died 9 December 1899 - although in Upwey - not in the outer harbour area of Weymouth.
His parents - William Jolliffe and Sarah Cheney - lived in Cove Street in the 1861, 1871 and 1881 censuses.
William Jolliffe was a drayman for the brewery - I wonder therefore if they lived ina brewery owned house as in much later years a number of houses in that vicinity were owned by the brewery and let to employees.
Debbie
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Arthur Jolliffe lived in Cove Street (Cove Row?) in 1861 and 1871. He died 9 December 1899 - although in Upwey - not in the outer harbour area of Weymouth.
His parents - William Jolliffe and Sarah Cheney - lived in Cove Street in the 1861, 1871 and 1881 censuses.
William Jolliffe was a drayman for the brewery - I wonder therefore if they lived ina brewery owned house as in much later years a number of houses in that vicinity were owned by the brewery and let to employees.
Debbie
In 1861, some of mine were at No. 1 Cove
e.g. Thomas & Ann (Bellamy) WHITE, their
daughter Emma Martha White who would later marry John Flisher, and Charlotte Lydia Zelley was at the White abode at the time of the Census.
A few places away there was the widow Elizabeth JOLLIFFE. And recorded in No. 9 was your
William and Sarah JOLLIFFE
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As we expand beyond the confines of Trinity & Hope,
a fixture on Love Lane was Francis LEE, the Love Lane
Bootmaker.
Over the decades, some old familiar Weymouth names
lived on Love Lane from time-to-time such as:
BOLT, CHICK, HOUNSELL, JOLLIFFE and TIZARD.
Now, if we mentioned the many folks of Boot Lane,
there would likely be a bootmaker's apprentice or two.
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Well had another look at the folks residing in the Hope Street area in 1891. Some old familiar names including
Lovell, Grant, Carter, Pearce, Ellis, Randall, Zelley, Symes
and Tizard. In some cases the various names are connected
such as Lovell and Grant.
Of interest, one Elizabeth Bellamy ZELLEY was residing at the digs of her sister Charlotte Lydia (Zelley) Pearce. Elsewhere
at Hope Way - retired mariner William Grant was residing at the home of his son-in-law Richard LOVELL.
If we travel back in time, some of the names can be traced to the Fleet, Chickerell & Langton Herring area while others are from the Wyke Regis area.
The Bellamy name can be traced to one Ann Charlotte BELLAMY. She married Thomas WHITE of Wyke Regis.
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Zelley
It was good to read your writings about 'Hope tp Trinity' in Weymouth. Some of the Jolliffes you mentioned would have been my ancestors.
The road names you mentioned are very familiar and there is still an 'Old Rooms Inn'
Debbie
Debbie
It has been a long time since we touched on the folks of Hope, Cove and Trinity
in Weymouth. Any additions or comments are welcome from others.
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Hi, i was reading about hope to trinity in weymouth, i was born a Jolliffe in 1972 but was adopted in that year as well, i have traced back my grandfather back to when he was born in 1918 in weymouth but i have hit a brick wall, can you help me to find away around it.
Cheers
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Hi, i was reading about hope to trinity in weymouth, i was born a Jolliffe in 1972 but was adopted in that year as well, i have traced back my grandfather back to when he was born in 1918 in weymouth but i have hit a brick wall, can you help me to find away around it.
Cheers
Could you provide his first name.
Two born in 1918 in the Weymouth region were
Albert H and William A. Jolliffe
Maiden names of mothers were Bishop and Cook.
Possible marriages:
1900: Henry Richard Jolliffe and Ellen Rhoda Bishop
1915: Henry F. Jolliffe and Alice Cook
There was a Henry Francis Jolliffe born in 1893.
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Arthur Jolliffe lived in Cove Street (Cove Row?) in 1861 and 1871. He died 9 December 1899 - although in Upwey - not in the outer harbour area of Weymouth.
His parents - William Jolliffe and Sarah Cheney - lived in Cove Street in the 1861, 1871 and 1881 censuses.
William Jolliffe was a drayman for the brewery - I wonder therefore if they lived ina brewery owned house as in much later years a number of houses in that vicinity were owned by the brewery and let to employees.
Debbie
In 1861, some of mine were at No. 1 Cove
e.g. Thomas & Ann (Bellamy) WHITE, their
daughter Emma Martha White who would later marry John Flisher, and Charlotte Lydia Zelley was at the White abode at the time of the Census.
A few places away there was the widow Elizabeth JOLLIFFE. And recorded in No. 9 was your
William and Sarah JOLLIFFE
Fast forward to 1891 and William Jolliffe is still residing on Cove (No. 7)
close to some of my relatives such as Richard Zelley (No. 13)
and Lydia (White) Simpson and her niece Emma Flisher
(sister of George John Flisher).
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Hi
My grand dads name is William Arthur Jolliffe and his mothers maiden name was cook.
i know that he married a Janet Cape, and they had a duaghter which is my mum.
I have just bought a Morris Minor and the first owners was a Reginald Tom Jolliffe and a Arthur Percival Jolliffe and they lived at Willow Farm, Yetminster, Sherborne.
Have you come across these name yet?
Cheers
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Hi Paulnet30
I was also born a Jolliffe and have a fair bit of Jolliffe information (much of it worked on by others before I got it) so lets see if we can link any of this.
From the earlier messages on this link between you and Zelly it looks as though your grandfather was the William Arthur Jolliffe born to Henry Francis Jolliffe and Alice Cook.
Henry and Alice were married in the apr/may/jun quarter of 1915.
And as Zelly said there is a Henry Francis Jolliffe born in 1893.
Bear in mind much of the rest I am saying is supposition from quick viewings of census and marriage/birth record on the web.
In the 1901 census there is a Henry Jolliffe aged 8. Full family is
Francis Jolliffe age 30 born Portland
Jane Jolliffe age 31 born Weymouth
Beatrice Jolliffe age 9
Henry Jolliffe age 8
Herbert Jolliffe age 3
William Jolliffe age 1
Living at 12 Oakley Place, Weymouth
There is an 1890 marriage of Francis George Jolliffe in Weymouth District to Jane Swindles. Which would be about right for the ages of the children.
In 1891 Francis and Jane are living at 1 Jubilee Terrace with his mother Eliza Jolliffe.
In 1881 Frank (Francis) is with his family at Cheslie Portland.
William Jolliffe 42 Plumber born Barnett (this may complicate things)
Eliza Jolliffe 43 Weymouth
William Jolliffe 19 Weymouth
Eliza Jolliffe 17 Weymouth
Alfred Jolliffe 16 Weymouth
Frank Jolliffe 10 Weymouth (they may have reported this incorrectly)
Mivia Jolliffe 9 Portland (daughter but name not clear)
In 1871 Victoria Terrace Chisel Portland
William Jolliffe 32 Plumber, Painter & Glazier born Dorset (different from 1881)
Eliza Jolliffe 36 Dorset
William Jolliffe 9 Dorset
Mary A Jolliffe 7 Dorset (is this the same child as Eliza in 1881)
Alfred Jolliffe 5 Dorset
Francis 8 months Dorset
In 1862 there is marriage entry in Weymouth District which include two names of William Jolliffe and Eliza Randalls.
Remember this is supposition from looking at the census records and would all need checking - but it may be a start.
Regards
Debbie
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In 1841 there is a William Jolliffe born in Barnet London.
If you were only to get limited certificates this birth and the possible marriage of William and Eliza may be a good bet.
Regards
Debbie
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To expand the JOLLIFFE discussion, I have added a thread to the one name interest section. Hopefully, some of us can discuss the various branches and attempt to outline the various family groups.