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Title: BARTLETT Look-up 1851 Please
Post by: Terry Fox on Friday 23 September 05 16:38 BST (UK)
Could you please look up the Bartlett family in the 1851 census in Morden/Almer. The reference is I believe HO107/1856 f463 pp2-3. I need to establish the relationships to the head of household.
Many thanks,
Terry
Title: Re: BARTLETT Look-up 1851 Please
Post by: shoko on Wednesday 28 September 05 17:08 BST (UK)
Hi Terry
There were two BARTLETT households in Morden on the two pages of HO107/1856 f463 that you referenced. From their ages etc it seems likely that the second were descendants of the first family, and that they lived close to one another, but the address of the first household was (I think) "Frogmoor" and of the second just "West Morden". The writing was very faint and not easy to read, so I am also in doubt as to the occupation of William BARTLETT and the birthplace of his wife.

William BARTLETT  Head M 56 Drill Man  Ag Lab   Dorset Almer
Elizabeth BARTLETT  Wife M 54                         Dorset  ?---yston
Sarah BARTLETT  Dau U 28                                Dorset Morden
Prudence BARTLETT  Dau U 21                           Dorset Morden
Maryann BARTLETT  Dau U 19                            Dorset Morden
Catherine BARTLETT  Dau U 13                           Dorset Morden
Charlotte BARTLETT  Dau U 11                            Dorset Morden
Ann COAKES Mother-in-law Wid 85  Pauper      Dorset Stickland
Sarah BARTLETT  G-Dau U 8                                London
Tom BARTLETT  G-Son U 4                                   London

Charles BARTLETT  Head M 23   Ag Lab              Dorset Morden
Amelia BARTLETT  Wife M 22                            Dorset Briantspuddle
Sarah BARTLETT  Dau U 2                                  Dorset Morden
Louisa BARTLETT  Dau U 1                                 Dorset Morden

Shoko
Title: Re: BARTLETT Look-up 1851 Please
Post by: Terry Fox on Wednesday 28 September 05 22:08 BST (UK)
Shoko,
Many thanks - brilliant! The appearance of the mother-in-law gives me the maiden name of William's wife Elizabeth, over whom I have struggled for some while. I had earmarked the marriage to Elizabeth Coaks in 1817 at Lytchett Minster as a likely option and you have confirmed it.
I can also locate the second Bartlett family of Charles and you have confirmed his relationship to Amelia, who died shortly thereafter.
Could you - pretty please - look up Willam's brother Benjamin (b. 1796) and his family who were in Almer at the same time? I can't give you the full census reference but they are adjoining villages. I went down there a couple of months ago and even found the farm where they lived in 1841 but no trace of any documentation or gravestones or anything.

Many, many thanks,

Terry
Title: Re: BARTLETT Look-up 1851 Please
Post by: allibaker on Thursday 29 September 05 13:01 BST (UK)
hi terry
wasnt sure if you already had the 1841 cencus for this family or not???
so here it is in case you need it
1841 cencus -morden dorset
milley farm
william bartlett 40yrs old farmer
elizabeth 40yrs
thomas 20yrs
charles 13yrs
prudence 11yrs
john 9yrs
maryann 7yrs
catherine 5yrs
charlotte 1yr
ann coakes 70yrs

would seem mother in law lived with them for at least 10yrs
Title: Re: BARTLETT Look-up 1851 Please
Post by: allibaker on Thursday 29 September 05 13:06 BST (UK)
the 1841 also has benjamin in morden-
benjamin bartlett 40yrs ag lab
sarah 40yrs
benjamin 20yrs
dina?20yrs(f)
caroline 40yrs

iam assuming caroline was another sister?? unless he had 2 wives lol
regards
alli
Title: Re: BARTLETT Look-up 1851 Please
Post by: Terry Fox on Thursday 29 September 05 22:42 BST (UK)
Hi Alli,
Many thanks for the 1841 detail; mothers-in-law do seem to hang around, don't they? I've picked up on Ann Coakes and found her marriage and birth in LDS and then her parents wedding. It is either feast or famine, isn't it?
Terry
Title: Re: BARTLETT Look-up 1851 Please
Post by: allibaker on Friday 30 September 05 06:14 BST (UK)
 isnt it just lol ;D
Title: Re: BARTLETT Look-up 1851 Please
Post by: shoko on Thursday 06 October 05 00:20 BST (UK)
Hi Terry
Two Bartlett families in Almer in 1851, including Benjamin's:

Benjamin BARTLETT Head 52 Ag. lab.  Almer
Hannah BARTLETT Wife 51                 Spetisbury
George BARTLETT  Son 22  Ag. lab.      Almer
William  BARTLETT  Son 15  Ag. lab.     Morden
Martha  BARTLETT  Daug 13                Morden

Thomas BARTLETT Head 61 Ag. lab.    Almer
Susan  BARTLETT Wife 54                   Almer
Robert  BARTLETT Son 16  Ag. lab.      Almer
Elizabeth  BARTLETT Daug 11             Almer

Shoko
Title: Re: BARTLETT Look-up 1851 Please
Post by: Terry Fox on Thursday 06 October 05 22:33 BST (UK)
shoko,
Many thanks for your help.
Terry
Title: Re: BARTLETT Look-up 1851 Please
Post by: Terry Fox on Monday 24 October 05 14:07 BST (UK)
Shoko,
They do say that the reward for work well done is more work to do well! Having researched what you found so far, I have come up with more family members, who are the children of Thomas (61) and Susan (54) Bartlett, who you found in Almer in 1851. Theses are:
James Bartlett (b. Almer 1821)
Samuel Bartlett (b. Almer 1825)
Thomas Bartlett (b. Almer 1828)
All were in Almer in 1841 but had left home by 1851, when only Robert and Elizabeth were with their parents. Samuel was in Sturminster Marshall in 1871. Could you check please whether they were still in the Morden/Almer area in 1851.
Many thanks,
Terry