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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: Elliven on Wednesday 24 June 26 13:03 BST (UK)
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This gentleman was my great grandfather and is a bit of an enigma. He died, aged 82, in 1955/56 when I was just about 6 years old - so I don't remember much about him.
I believe he was born in Cumberland but he seems to have spent much of his early life in the Burnley area of Lancashire, working as a Vat cleaner in a local brewery and then as a sinker in the coal mines.
He came to the Craghead area of Stanley and I believe he married a local girl but I don't know her name and she died years before I was born. He worked in the coal mines and was over 70 then retired and took a part time job as gardener for Doctor Melrose at Shafto House, Craghead right up to his death. I believe he was born 13th April 1874 but the actual year is uncertain although the day and month is correct.
Someone has kindly given me a photograph of his wife - a photograph I have never seen before, and this has provoked my interest. I believe they were married in the 1890s and they had 13 children - not all of whom survived. My Grandmother was born on 29th November 1901 and her name was Emma Elizabeth - she was not the oldest. Other children's names I have are Elsie, Margaret (aka Meg and Peg), Ernest and Ivy.
Elsie lived in Burnley, Margaret married and went to live in London. Ernest lived and died in Craghead. Ivy also lived and died locally. She was the youngest surviving child, born c1920.
I am now the oldest surviving member of the family, so I have no one to ask about the family. I know this is mission impossible but I have to try. Can anyone please help? Many thanks
Neville Bougourd
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In the 1939 Register there is a William H Croasdale (widower - Coal Miner Shifter, heavy work) born 13 April 1874 and living at 68 Thomas Street, Stanley and Ivy Croasdale (single, Confectionery Factory Worker) born 18 December 1920. Her surname has been subsequently updated to Ellison.
You'd need to look at this Death Certificate to see, if it's him:
First name(s) William H
County Durham
Last name Croasdale
Volume 1A
Sex Male
Page 468
Birth year 1874
Country England
Age 82
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Death quarter 2
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Death year 1956
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
District Durham North Western
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There was an Ivy Croasdale who's birth was registered Q/E March 1921 in Lanchester Reg Dist. (She had been born in Dec 1920 - according to 1939 Register.)
Mother's maiden name was Pullen. (Also Ivy married a Robert Ellison in Durham later - which fits with
manukarik's findings.
We need to confirm the maiden name of other children - then look for a marriage for William.
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1921 Census for 34 Kimberley Tce, Craghead, Co Durham (apologies for formatting)
William Croasdale Head Male 1872 49 Burnley, Lancashire, England Coal Miner Hewer "coal Owners" (Out Of Work) Thos Hedley & Bros
Adelina Croasdale Mother Female 1876 45 St Helens, Lancashire, England Home Duties
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Ernest Croasdale Son Male 1904 16 Durham, Durham, England "driver Underground" Thos Hedley & Bros "coal Owners" (Out Of Work)
Elsie Croasdale Daughter Female 1908 12 Durham, Durham, England - -
Maggie Croasdale Daughter Female 1911 9 Durham, Durham, England -
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Ivy Croasdale Daughter Female 1921 - Durham, Durham, England
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Possible birth of William:
First name(s) William Henry
Country England
Last name Croasdale
Volume 8E
Birth registration year 1874
Page 231
Registration quarter 2
Mother's maiden name Wilkinson
District Burnley
County Lancashire
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Possible marriage for William:
First name(s) William Henry
Country England
Last name Croasdale
Volume 8E
Marriage quarter 3
Volume as transcribed 8E
Marriage year 1896
Page number 440
married Adelina Bullen
District Burnley
County Lancashire
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According to the 1921 Census William was born in Burnley and his wife - Adelina was born in St Helens. They are living in Craghead, Durham at that point.
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Adelina died in 1938, Lanchester Reg District - shown as aged 59.
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Thank you manucarik,
This is definitely my family and you have confirmed exact dates. Ivy married Robert Ellison and emigrated to South Africa but returned when she became pregnant and a divorce followed. I don't remember that because I was only two years old at the time. It was her daughter who found the photo and gave me a copy. Her father came to live with us when she emigrated.
That was a very quick and encouraging answer so I am off to a good start! Thanks again.
Neville
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Possible marriage for William:
First name(s) William Henry
Country England
Last name Croasdale
Volume 8E
Marriage quarter 3
Volume as transcribed 8E
Marriage year 1896
Page number 440
married Adelina Bullen
District Burnley
County Lancashire
Marriage is on Anc
5 Sept 1896 Habergham Eaves, Holy Trinity, Lancs
William Henry Croasdale 22 Beer Bottler - Father John Croasdale - Labourer
Adeline Bullen 19 Father Ambrose Bullen - Miner
Addesd Witnesses - James Henry Bullen and Mary Ann Walmsley
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Birth Reg;
CROASDALE, WILLIAM HENRY mmn WILKINSON
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in THE BURNLEY UNION Volume 08E Page 231
Christened 6 May 1874 Habergham Eaves to JOHN/SYBIL
Birth 13 April 1874*****
Trish :)
EDIT
Marriage;
11 Oct. 1873 Habergham-Eaves
John CROASDALE to Sybil WILKINSON
Fathers JOHN Croasdale and WILLIAM Wilkinson
Transcript only
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1881 Census
John Croasdale 29 Head Mar Carter born Rimmington, Yorkshire
Sibyl Croasdale 32 Wife Mar Retailer Of Sweets (Confection)
William Hy. Croasdale 6 Son
Levinia Croasdale 3 Daughter
Ann Croasdale 1 Daughter
All born Burnley except John
1871 John is a Servant in Lancs
1861 with his Grandfather in Sawley, Yorkshire
Henry Croasdale 62 Head Widr Farmer of 26 acres
Mark Croasdale 80 Son (30)
Thos Croasdale 27 Son
Alice Croasdale 25 Daughter
Emma Croasdale 18 Daughter
Jen Croasdale 9 Grandson Image is JN born Rennington, Yorkshire
John remarried 22 June 1890 and now says his Father is ROBERT Deceased
Illegitimate I think likely.
Darn GRO is locking me out so can't check for birth reg for John c 1851
Henry Croasdale had several Daughters that could be his Mother.
I don't see a Son named John or Henry with him.
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Darn GRO is locking me out so can't check for birth reg for John c 1851
Henry Croasdale had several Daughters that could be his Mother.
I don't see a Son named John or Henry with him.
Sadly, although John's birth appears on FreeBMD as below, on the original image the surname has faded which is presumably why I can't see it on the GRO Birth Index
Births Sep 1851
Croasdale John Clitheroe 21 447
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Ahh! - This looks like John Croasdale's birth on the GRO Birth Index - no mothers maiden name
CROUSDALE, JOHN -
GRO Ref 1851 Sept Qrter CLITHEROE UNION Vol 21 Page 447
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I would like to thank everyone who has participated here and found my Great Grandmother's name (Adeline or Adelina Croasdale). You have also found the names of 4 of their 13 children who were still at home at the time of the 1921 Census.
I can add another one to that: Emma Elizabeth Croasdale born 29th November 1901 although I am not sure where. She had left home to marry my Grandfather before the census of 1921. She was my Grandmother and all of the others you found were known to me when I was a child. So, its 5 down and 8 to go! I can't give up now!
Amazingly, Ivy's daughter has a photograph of Adeline and has promised me a copy of it. She didn't know the lady's name but she knew it was her Grandmother. Like me, she wasn't born until years after Adeline's death and had no personal memories of her.
Once again, thank you all
Neville
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Neville - on the 1911 census there are;
William aged 36
Adelina aged 34
Emma aged 9 --- born Browney? Durham
Ernest aged 7 born Blackhouse? Durham
'Elcie' aged 2 born Craghead, Durham
This census also tells us that Willliam and Adelina had been married for 14 years. They had had 6 children born alive, but 3 had sadly died.
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In 1901 William and Adelina are in Burnley at 240a Cog Lane - no children with them.
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A free website for Lancashire Parish records may be useful for your Lancashire ancestors. Not every record is on of course but William's marriage is there; (I know you have already been given the info - but just letting you know about the website)
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
Marriage: 5 Sep 1896 Holy Trinity, Habergham Eaves, Lancashire
William Henry Croasdale - 22, Beer Bottler, Bachelor, Glen Street
Adeline Bullen - 19, Spinner, Spinster, Burdett Street
Groom's Father: John Croasdale, Labourer
Bride's Father: Ambrose Bullen, Miner
Witnesses: James Henry Bullen; Mary Ann Walmsley
Married by Banns by A. Blackburn
Register: Marriages 1893 - 1897, Page 201, Entry 401
Source: LDS Film 1526143
There are records for Burnley Cemetery also.
I will just see if I can find burials for any children born after the marriage in Burnley - who died in Burnley.
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Unfortunately there are several Croasdale children and the cemetery record does not give the name of the parents.
However this one is definitely a child of William and Adeline;
William Henry Croasdale buried 6 Nov 1900 - aged 1 month. Abode 240a Cog Lane, Burnley. So the same address as the family were living at on the 1901 census.
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CROASDALE, JOHN
mmn BULLEN
Q4 1903
CHESTER LE STREET Volume 10A Page 556
John Croasdale
Age 0
Q4 1903
Death Registration Place Chester le Street,
Volume 10a Page 354
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Guessing this is one of theirs - Elsie register in the same district a year later
CROASDALE, MARGARET JANE
mmn BOLLEN
Q2 1907
LANCHESTER Volume 10A Page 419
Margaret Jane Croasdale
Birth Date Jul 1907
Death Date Oct 1907
Death Place Craghead, Durham Unitary Authority, County Durham, England
Cemetery St. George's Churchyard
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Pennines and Mabel Bagshawe,
They had 13 children in total but I know that most of them were stillborn or died within a very short time after birth. My Grandmother (Emma Elizabeth) and her much younger sister (Ivy) used to talk about it a lot. I was 16 when Emma died and a mature man when Ivy died, so I do remember those conversations clearly.
I was old enough to remember five of them and now you have shown me that, in addition to the 5 who survived into adulthood, two more were live born:
William Henry who was buried in Burnley on 6th November 1900 aged 1 month
Margaret Jane born July 1907 and died October 1907 aged 3 months.
Further to this John was stillborn 1n 1903. That accounts for 8 of the children and I believe that all the other stillborn children would have been born here in the North East. We may never know, but it is amazing that all of this information has come together in just one day. I am very grateful to all who have responded.
Neville