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Looking for any records of a MR LOSEBY (apologies don't have first name), married a Mary/Elizabeth Higgins (b. abt 1891) from Kells County Meath Ireland, some time between 1910 and 1920. Mr Loseby was most likely born in UK 1880 - 1890 and, according to family lore, most likely a military person. He was possibly killed in WW1, as Mary/Elizabeth Higgins/Loseby is listed as Widow in Ireland 1926 Census. They are not listed in Ireland Census 1911 which leads me to believe they had married and were resident in UK. I have Mary/Elizabeth Higgins' records, desperately looking to identify her husband Mr Loseby.
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Nothing showing in UK
There's a tree on Ancestry
Mary (Cissy) Higgins b c 1890. Kells Meath. Father Peter, mother Bridget Rourke.
1901 in Ireland Maudlin Street Kells.
Her death is given as 1953, but no mention of a marriage or another name at death which has no more details
Could this be her.
Deaths Jun 1953 LOSEBY Mary E age 86 Bradford
I expect you already have this.
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Mary (Cissy) Higgins b c 1890. Kells Meath. Father Peter, mother Bridget Rourke.
1901 in Ireland Maudlin Street Kells.
Born 28 October 1889 at Cannon Street, Kells.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1889/02455/1912285.pdf
1901 census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Meath/Kells/Maudlin_Street/1613304/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001118712/
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Is this her ?
Yorkshire Post 12 May 1953
LOSEBY. —May 11, 23 Marriners. Drive, Heaton . Bradford, aged 86.
MARY ELIZABETH, wife of the late H. C. LOSEBY (late of Otley and Harrogate).—Service Crematorium. Harrogate, Thursday 2 p.m. Friends please meet at the Crematorium.
Would have good to have his full name
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...as Mary/Elizabeth Higgins/Loseby is listed as Widow in Ireland 1926 Census.
She goes by Elizabeth Loseby in the 1926.
Farrell, Kells Urban DED, Co Meath
Age: 35
https://nationalarchives.ie/collections/search-the-1926-census/census-record/#surname__icontains=Loseby&limit=30&a_id=1359470
most likely born in UK 1880 - 1890
In 1880-1890, it was the United Kingdom of England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales.
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Is this her ?
Yorkshire Post 12 May 1953
LOSEBY. —May 11, 23 Marriners. Drive, Heaton . Bradford, aged 86.
MARY ELIZABETH, wife of the late H. C. LOSEBY (late of Otley and Harrogate).—Service Crematorium. Harrogate, Thursday 2 p.m. Friends please meet at the Crematorium.
Would have good to have his full name
Possibly this marriage
Marriages Sep 1896
FISHER, Mary Elizabeth
LOSEBY, Harry Charles
Loughbro' 7a 259
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Probate for Henry Charles Loseby, died 1942, age 72
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:7X4P-4L3Z?lang=en
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1911 census. He was a schoolmaster born in Warwick.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWN2-J6H?lang=en
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Thanks to all above for very prompt replies, really appreciated.
And to confirm some of above replies
Mary [Elizabeth] Loseby (nee Higgins) died in Dublin in 1952, death recorded as Mary Loseby.
She was listed as Elizabeth Loseby (see attached) in 1926 Ireland census as Widow age 35.
So her husband MR LOSEBY would have died between 1908 (likelest marriage date) and 1926 (year of census).
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Yes, 1953 Bradford is the wrong one. A pity really as it was so easy to trace ;D
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A Harry Loseby, age 35, buried Camberwell, 1920
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/218236925/harry-loseby
Could be Harry N A Loseby, died Chelsea, 1920, born 1885
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2JHJ-24J?lang=en
Harry Newton Arden Loseby, born Newmarket, S quarter, 1885, MMN Arden
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A Harry Loseby, age 35, buried Camberwell, 1920
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/218236925/harry-loseby
Could be Harry N A Loseby, died Chelsea, 1920, born 1885
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2JHJ-24J?lang=en
Harry Newton Arden Loseby, born Newmarket, S quarter, 1885, MMN Arden
Electoral registers 1920. Camberwell.
Violet Ivy Loseby at same address.
No relationship showing
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There is a record of him going to Ellis Island, New York with Violet in 1910
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Buried together.
Harry Loseby BIRTH1885DEATH30 Sep 1920 (aged 34–35)BURIAL
Camberwell Old Cemetery
PLOTSquare 63, Grave 26538
Violet Loseby BIRTH1889 DEATH9 Mar 1932 (aged 42–43)BURIAL
Camberwell Old Cemetery
PLOTSquare 63, Grave 26538
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No records that I can find of the mysterious Mr Loseby marrying Mary/Elizabeth Higgins in Ireland or anywhere in UK.
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No records that I can find of the mysterious Mr Loseby marrying Mary/Elizabeth Higgins in Ireland or anywhere in UK.
Definitely a mystery ???
Rosie
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In 1926, Elizabeth is listed as a confectioner and on her death in 1952, she is of independant means. Was Mr Loseby also a confectioner?
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I have searched lots of immigration records different variations of both names and nothing
Have you tried searching newspapers to see if there is any mention of her husband's name On her death notice
I can see a few records on Newspapers.com ( index )
Rosie
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There is a funeral announcement for her - 12 April 1952
Drogheda Argus and Leinster Journal.
She died in a nursing home though so may not be any further detail.
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Mary [Elizabeth] Loseby (nee Higgins) died in Dublin in 1952, death recorded as Mary Loseby.
The only Loseby death in Republic of Ireland in 1952 (or indeed 1951-1953)-
Margaret Loseby died 6 April 1952 at Mount Carmel Hospital.
She was a widow, aged 61 and of independent means. The death witnessed by Sister M Theophane of Mount Carmel Hospital, Orwell Road, Dublin.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1952/04478/4174951.pdf
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FT57-LW5?lang=en
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There is a funeral announcement for her - 12 April 1952
Drogheda Argus and Leinster Journal.
She died in a nursing home though so may not be any further detail.
What was her first name, heywood? :)
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Mary - the New Cemetery, Kells is mentioned
There are notices too for her sister, Kate in 1950 at the home of her sister Mrs M Loseby.
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A bit of a mix up with all these different names
Mary /Elizabeth /Margaret
Maybe she never married ::)
Rosie
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Margaret could be an error.
Presumably, a family member gave the information for the obituary.
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Can you look at this one Heywood
Irish Independent
Friday 18 April 1952
Rosie
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Droheda journal 12 April 1952
MRS. M. LOSEBY. KELLS The funeral of Mrs. Mary Loseby. whose death occurred at the Carmelite Nursing Home, Orwell Road, took place to the New Cemetery, Kells. on Monday. following Mass at the Convent of the Nursing Home The chief mourners were Michael and John Higgins (Kells). Peter Higgins ( Dublin) and Anthony Higgins 'U.S.A., .brothers). Mrs. Annie McGuirk. Tyrconnell Road. Inchlcore. Dublin (sister , . Messrs. Philip, John, Paul. Kevin and Peter Higgins (Civil Engineer). Patrick and Michael Higgins, U.S.A.; Connie and Bernard McGuirk. Galway, and Desmond and James McGuirk. Dublin (nephews). Mrs. C. Healy. 'Mrs. Bridie McManus, Dublin: Mrs. Caroline Sadler. Belfast: the Misses Kuala, Nancy, Frances, Bernadette, Elizabeth and Carmel Higgins, Dublin. and Kathleen Higgins, S.R.N. (London) (nieces): Rev. Pr. Parrell, C.B.Sp. (relative), Ftev. D. Crilly, C.C., Kells,officiated.
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Thanks wilcoxon
I thought it might have had a loseby name lurking about somewhere
Rosie
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That was the one I mentioned, Rosie. I can only see snippets.
The death posted by Kiltaglassan is the same person but named as Margaret - probably an error.
As you say, not a Loseby in sight! Not even ‘widow of …’
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That was the one I mentioned, Rosie. I can only see snippets.
The death posted by Kiltaglassan is the same person but named as Margaret - probably an error.
As you say, not a Loseby in sight! Not even ‘widow of …’
And I have searched through lots of Military Records and nothing
Rosie
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Soooo....
Not found in Ireland in 1911, not found in England or Wales either as Loseby.
Mary Elizabeth Higgins born c 1890. Would she be able to marry at 16.
Could she have married a man who died and then remarried again to ? Loseby.
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Soooo....
Not found in Ireland in 1911, not found in England or Wales either as Loseby.
Mary Elizabeth Higgins born c 1890. Would she be able to marry at 16.
Could she have married a man who died and then remarried again to ? Loseby.
Thought on that as well but couldn't find anything
Rosie
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Mary Elizabeth Higgins born c 1890. Would she be able to marry at 16.
Could she have married a man who died and then remarried again to ? Loseby.
It doesn’t alter things but she was registered Mary in 1889.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1889/02455/1912285.pdf
Her sister Elizabeth b 1899 , is Lillie in 1926
Birth of Elizabeth
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1899/02052/1785489.pdf
That is, if it is the right family. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Meath/Kells/Maudlin_Street/1613304/
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Are the family all there in 1911, Heywood? I noticed some of the mourners were from USA.
Could she have met & married in the USA and returned home after his death.
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Are the family all there in 1911, Heywood? I noticed some of the mourners were from USA.
Could she have met & married in the USA and returned home after his death.
No incoming records matching she was in Ireland in 1924 when she was a witness at one of her siblings marriages she signed as Loseby
Rosie
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No incoming records matching she was in Ireland in 1924 when she was a witness at one of her siblings marriages she signed as Loseby
Indeed she was.
Marriage of Peter L Higgins to Annie Julia Cummins - 20 August 1924 - Kells RC Church.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1924/09165/5314893.pdf
She signs as a witness - Mrs E Loseby.
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Thanks Kiltaglassan
Couldn't remember if it was a sister or brother :)
Rosie
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Nothing showing in UK
There's a tree on Ancestry
Mary (Cissy) Higgins b c 1890. Kells Meath. Father Peter, mother Bridget Rourke.
1901 in Ireland Maudlin Street Kells.
???
1911 Norliffe . Knowle Avenue. Bisphar. ? Blackpool
Cissie Higgins 20 maid b County Weath Kells Ireland
Head of house
James Herbert Whittle S 47 retired grocer b Chorley
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Good find Wilcoxon
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Nothing showing in UK
There's a tree on Ancestry
Mary (Cissy) Higgins b c 1890. Kells Meath. Father Peter, mother Bridget Rourke.
1901 in Ireland Maudlin Street Kells.
???
1911 Norliffe . Knowle Avenue. Bisphar. ? Blackpool
Cissie Higgins 20 maid b County Weath Kells Ireland
Head of house
James Herbert Whittle S 47 retired grocer b Chorley
Good find ;)
Rosie
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Anthony Higgins b 1902 Kells arrived in New York in June 1934.
His person in Old Country was John Higgins brother Kells.
He had been back in 1934.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Meath/Kells_Urban/Maudlin_Street/719440/
There's a lot of records for Anthony in US but no clues to his sister or Loseby.
He seems to have friends named Tobin also from Meath.
No help at all really.
All other Genealogy sites seem to have drawn a blank with Higgins Loseby marriage.
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His person in Old Country was John Higgins brother Kells.
John Higgins born 23 August 1894.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1894/02251/1847208.pdf
On the 1926 census, he gives his age as 29yrs 11mths, whereas it's actually 31yrs 5mths.
Maudlin Street, Kells Urban DED, Co Meath
https://nationalarchives.ie/collections/search-the-1926-census/census-record/#a_id=1359949
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Lots of records on Anthony in the USA nothing matching with his sister
I noticed on the 1911 Census she is recorded as a maid boarding with James Herbert Whittle Retired Grocer and she ends up as Grocer/Fruiter
Rosie
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1926 Irish Census has her as a confectioner with a confectioner's assistant also on the census form.
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Is this her on the Ireland City Directories 1931/1949
M Loseby
Cross Street
Fruit Merchants
M Loseby
Cross Street
Tobacconists and News Agent
Rosie
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Have you checked these two on FindMyPast?
Albert E
Loseby
1917
ARR1
Gro War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 To 1921)
George T
Loseby
1918
ARR1
Gro War Death Army Other Ranks (1914 To 1921)
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Albert Edward Loseby
Killed in Action
12 January 1917
Registers of Soldiers Effects
His Father
John T Loseby
Rosie
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Thank you rosie, probably not him. What about George?
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I couldn't see any records for a George T Loseby on Ancestry
Rosie
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Probably a transcript error?
Name
George T Loseby
Sex
Male
Military Rank
Leading Seaman
Military Unit
Royal Naval Division
Event Type
Death
Event Date
1918
Event Place
United Kingdom
Line Number
116
Page Number
52
Source Publication Title
British nationals armed forces deaths 1796-2005
Reference
ARR1
Volume
N.1
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There is a George Tinsley Loveley, Leading Seaman died March 1918, aged 24 yrs
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Thanks heywood!
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Not sure if this snippet would be worth following up?
Warwick and Warwickshire Advertiser, 23 Apr.1938: ... Loseby was one the 13 children of Colour-Sergeant William Loseby, of the 2nd Queen’s Regiment, native of Coventry, and Mrs. Margaret Loseby, a native of Dublin. Colour-Sergeant Loseby served with the Queen’s Regiment South Africa for many years ...
There is a Warwick death for a Rhoda E. Loseby in 1938 age 80... :-\
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Rhoda Loseby born c1858 ... can cross that one off-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5BZ-QCL?lang=en
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Just passing time till I can get a beer out of the fridge ;D
1911 James Herbert Whittle b 1864 Chorley
Not found in 1921.
Died Dec qtr 1926 aged 63.
James Herbert Whittle Death Date 1 Nov 1926 Blackpool, Probate Date 15 Jan 1927
2 Finchley Road Blackpool Probate to John Batty Calkfield bank manager and Edward Worsworth Gabbott estate agent
Effects £63895 .
Lancashire Evening Post - Tuesday 02 November 1926
James had collapsed and died opposite the North Pier. He had been suffering from Heart disease. He had previously lived at the Elms Finchley Road, now used as a private school.
Just a short time after Cissie was working here.
Blackpool Gazette & Herald - Friday 18 August 1911.
DOUBLE-FRONTED FREEHOLD RESIDENCE Norcliffe. KNOWLE VENUE Blackpool, two entertaining rooms , kitchen, and other offices four bedrooms and bathroom , etc.;immediate possession. ' For card to visit , apply to Frank H Gorst Architect. 7 Birley St Blackpool.
It`s possible that Cissie wasn`t actually living at Norcliffe , but just there on the night of the census.
By 1914 she had probably moved on.
Friday 24 April 1914 Various papers
WANTED.—A Good situation £GENERAL for private house; able to do plain cooking ; small family ;no washing: good home and wages ——Apply. Mrs Hutchinson, ‘“Norcliffe,” Knowle Avenue, Blackpool.
Richard died on Christmas day , how sad.
LEGAL NOTICES. Re RICHARD HUTCHINSON, Deceased, N()TICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that all Persons baving any Claims againat the Estate of Richard Hutchinson .late of Norcliffe,”” Knowle Avenue, Blackpool.who died on the 25th day of December, 1917, are hereby requested to send particulars of their Claims to me, tthe undersigned on or before the 28th day of January. Dated this 29th day of December _1917. MARY HUTCHINSON, Exor. of R. Hutchinson, Northcliffe, ; Knowle Avenue, Blackpool.
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There are notices too for her sister, Kate in 1950 at the home of her sister Mrs M Loseby.
Katie Higgins died on 31 December 1949 at Farrell Street, Kells. She was aged 58yrs, single and a housekeeper. Her sister Mary Loseby was the informant. #172
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1950/04532/4194383.pdf
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