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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: RowanR on Thursday 05 March 26 13:55 GMT (UK)
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I'm really struggling with tracing some of the children of my 4xs Great Grandparents, Thomas Walton and Sarah Blenkarn and wondered if anybody here might be able to help with ideas.
Thomas was born in 1793 in Carlton in Craven to quakers James Walton and Julian Watson, he was disowned in 1815 when he married Sarah Blenkarn at Saint Oswald's Fulford, she was the daughter of Matthew Blenkarn and Mary Fisher who lived on Walmgate in York. Thomas and Sarah moved to Hunslet where they ran the Garden Gate/Gardener's Arms in Hunslet (Thomas was apprenticed as a Gardener) and their children are registered in Brighouse Quaker Monthly Meeting with parents not in membership. Thomas dies in 1830 and is buried in Leeds Quaker burial ground, Sarah remarries Matthew Kearsley in 1832 and dies in March 1841, Matthew having already died in 1838.
Their children are:
1. James born Hunslet 30 April 1816, he was an excise officer and marries Sarah Smith and then Jane McKellar in Glasgow and dies in Ripon in 1885, I'm good on him.
2. Mary born Hunslet 29 January 1816
3. Matthew born Hunslet 15 June 1819
4. Thomas born Hunslet 25 March 1821 died there 29 September 1822
5. Sarah Ann born Hunslet 10 March 1823
6. Thomas born Hunslet 16 August 1825. This is my 3xs great grandfather, he marries Elizabeth McGregor at Holy Trinity Rothwell in 1845 and dies at Hunslet in 1900
7. Jane born Hunslet 27 February 1828, she marries Squire Smith, a fishmonger son of Mark Smith also a fishmonger, at Hunslet on 8 January 1850 and I can't find her after that, she isn't with Squire on the 1851 census, he appears to be with his parents but he does state married.
Sorry for the wall of information, I'm trying to give everything I have in the hopes it might help. The children I can't trace are Mary, Matthew, Sarah Ann and Jane after her marriage (well technically before as well, I don't have her on on the 1841 census).
If anybody has any ideas that would be great because this family is driving me crazy, I've tried several times to find them now and just keep drawing a blank.
(Also if this is posted in the wrong place can somebody please move it)
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she isn't with Squire on the 1851 census, he appears to be with his parents but he does state married.
Can you find births of any children for them?
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she isn't with Squire on the 1851 census, he appears to be with his parents but he does state married.
Can you find births of any children for them?
Squire dies in August1857, the GRO index has a lot of Smiths with maiden name Walton but there is a John Edwin born December Quarter 1851 Hunslet, Hannah born in March Quarter 1854 in Leeds, and a John Walton Smith born September Quarter 1858 Leeds who would be just possible.
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There is a marriage for a John Walton Smith 1885 Drighlington Yorkshire but his father is Jonathon Smith
Several trees have this John Walton Smith born 1858 Leeds his parents are Jonathon Smith & Mary Walton
Rosie
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It also looks like John Edwin is the son of Edwin Smith and Ruth Walton. (Edit, Hannah looks to be his sister, I've just found them on 1861)
According to Find a Grave Squire is married when he dies but I'm not finding Jane buried in Hunslet Cemetery.
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There is a marriage for Sarah Ann Walton 3 September 1843 Non Conformist Records Oxford Place Chapel Leeds
Her father was Thomas Walton ( gardener )
She married a John Robinson
Their first son was born 1844 Walton Robinson Leeds they went on to have more family
On the census records Sarah Ann Robinson gives her birth as 1823 Hunslet Yorkshire
So maybe a possibility
Rosie
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There is a marriage for Sarah Ann Walton 3 September 1843 Non Conformist Records Oxford Place Chapel Leeds
Her father was Thomas Walton ( gardener )
She married a John Robinson
Their first son was born 1844 Walton Robinson Leeds they went on to have more family
On the census records Sarah Ann Robinson gives her birth as 1823 Hunslet Yorkshire
So maybe a possibility
Rosie
If her father is a gardener I'd say that's a very good possibility, because that is what Thomas apprenticed as, and the quaker records always refer to him as one even though he'd been keeping a pub for years, thank you. I'll look at it tomorrow, I'm feeling a bit done in tonight.
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***Was looking at Sarah and saw the 2 previous posts, here's the info I was about to post, sorry for the duplication...
Just wondering if Sarah Ann married John Robinson.
There is a non-conformist marriage for
Sarah Ann Walton a minor sp. Kirkstall near Leeds father Thomas Walton Gardener
John Robinson full age b. Ware houseman father Richard Robinson
Marrriage wits Joseph Walton, Charles Albert Wilson
1851
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u96/
1861
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u95/
Son Richard Matthew
GRO
ROBINSON, RICHARD MATTHEW WALTON
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 23 Page 497
1871
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u96/
Also for the middle name, Maria, registered as
ROBINSON, MARIA BOYES WALTON
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in BRADFORD AND NORTH BIERLEY YORKSHIRE Volume 23 Page 110
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I have this Sarah and John up to the 1881 census not having much luck finding them in 1891
There are a few deaths in between these years another possibility
Rosie
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Just spotted them Rosie; Maria marries William Kirk 1874 and goes to Canada in case you were looking for her.
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Just spotted them Rosie; Maria marries William Kirk 1874 and goes to Canada in case you were looking for her.
Yes I seen that I think there was another one of their sons went to Australia
Enough for me tonight ;)
Rosie
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Could this be a possibility for Matthew Walton born Hunslet 1819
Matthew Walton age 20 occ woollen draper
Registration District Leeds
Sub-registration district Leeds West
1841
Piece 1346
Folio 9
Page number 11
Mathew Walton 30, occ woollen draper born Leeds, Lodger
Civil parish St Sepulchre Middlesex
1851
Piece 1526
Folio 245
Page number 26
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I thought Matthew Walton on the 1851 census was a possibility
There was also a death for a Matthew Walton 1840 Leeds Yorkshire
Rosie
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Wow, I got on. I've been getting connection timed out errors for the last week and a half.
Thank you for your posts everybody, I think that is the right Sarah and I'll have a look at the censuses for Matthew.