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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: EdCan on Wednesday 04 March 26 22:43 GMT (UK)
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Would like to trace Clara. She was born 26 Jun 1863 Camberwell to parents James Payne and Emma Chappell. In 1871 and 1881 she is with her parents and siblings in St George Camberwell. I could not find her in 1891. In 1901 she is living with her sister Selina and Emma Wiseman in St Olave Southwark. In 1911 Selina and Emma are still together but no Clara.
I looked at 1903 Shoreditch Payne /Broughton marriage and the 1905 Reigate Payne/Bushell marriage but neither are my Clara. There do not appear to be any likely deaths for her
Anyone with suggestions?
Ed
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Clara's brother Henry died 26 February 1925 he left a will, sister Selina Payne spinster is named as his executor.
His address 6 Clifton Square, Albert Road, Peckham. Ref Probate Index.
It may tell you if Clara is still living.
Henry never married and lived for many years with his spinster sister Mary Ann Payne, yet she was not named as executor, a possible death being reg. Camberwell -1921 age 64
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Have you considered this death, this lady is in Ilford Essex in 1939 aged 64 and single, no dob ---
Special L London Country Council, Redbridge, Ilford M.B., Essex, England
Name Clara Payne
Death Age 86
Birth Date abt 1863
Registration Date Oct 1949
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Ilford
Inferred County Essex
Volume 5a
Page 304
Digital GRO death available for £3
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claybury_Hospital
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Camberwell Old Cemetery - All in the same grave
Henry Payne (1859) died 26 February 1925 buried 3 March 1925 Square 11 Grave 17679
Mary Payne ( 1857)buried 24 December 1921 Square 11 Grave 17679
Alice Payne (1881) died 22 January 1931 buried 27 January 1931 Square 11 Grave 17679
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Alice is the daughter of James Payne and his first wife Alice Payne married 1880 Reg. St Saviour Southwark.
When Alice 1881-1931- died she was of 69 Clifton Crescent Peckham her will left to Kate Payne widow probably her stepmother. (formerly Kate Lunnun married James Payne 1887 Reg. St Saviour)
James was possibly Henry's older brother requires further investigation.
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Info only, the Agnes Payne (grand daughter) in 1891/1901 is the daughter of Mary Ann Payne. She marries Henry A Doggrell in 1907 (image on Ancestry, his surname Doggrett). Together in 1939 and she dies 1963.
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Have you considered this death, this lady is in Ilford Essex in 1939 aged 64 and single, no dob ---
Special L London Country Council, Redbridge, Ilford M.B., Essex, England
Name Clara Payne
Death Age 86
Birth Date abt 1863
Registration Date Oct 1949
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District Ilford
Inferred County Essex
Volume 5a
Page 304
Digital GRO death available for £3
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claybury_Hospital
You came up trumps. Clara died 15 Nov 1949 as the result of ruptured development aneurism associated with hypertension. Reported by nephew Leonard Payne
Very much appreciated
Ed
Added- Forgot to mention that death cert also showed father as James Payne deceased silk oiler
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Camberwell Old Cemetery - All in the same grave
Henry Payne (1859) died 26 February 1925 buried 3 March 1925 Square 11 Grave 17679
Mary Payne ( 1857)buried 24 December 1921 Square 11 Grave 17679
Alice Payne (1881) died 22 January 1931 buried 27 January 1931 Square 11 Grave 17679
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Alice is the daughter of James Payne and his first wife Alice Payne married 1880 Reg. St Saviour Southwark.
When Alice 1881-1931- died she was of 69 Clifton Crescent Peckham her will left to Kate Payne widow probably her stepmother. (formerly Kate Lunnun married James Payne 1887 Reg. St Saviour)
James was possibly Henry's older brother requires further investigation.
Appreciate the burial info
many thanks
Ed
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Sadly it looks like she's in an institution in Ilford in 1939 - listed as incapacitated (sorry just spotted some of this was already posted alongside the death)
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Possble in 1891? Clara Payne 25, b London. Servant in Conduit St, St George Hannover Square
There's a few workhouse admissions in Holborn of a Clara Payne approx the right age in 1899 & 1900, which seem to lead to her being admitted to an asylum. this person was an umbrella maker so not sure if yours
Added: I think not the right Clara. Heath appeared to be the name of the asylum, which was in Bexley. There's a register entry for a Clara admitted in 1900 and died in Bexley in 1924
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Glad it was your Clara. I noticed on sister selinas probate in 1948 that Leonard Payne was mentioned
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