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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Waterford => Topic started by: ballydw on Wednesday 04 March 26 20:40 GMT (UK)
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Hoping to source a Marriage for Richard Fitzgerald which was before Civil Reg. I found a birth of a son James Fitzgerald 1st Jan 1869 Registered in Youghal Co Cork giving father as Richard Mother Hester/Esther Atkins. Any help appreciated thank you
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Haven’t found them yet.
Do you have any births/baptisms of other children to the couple?
Here is James’ baptism which occurred 28th December 1868 - a couple of days earlier than his civil record.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632279?locale=en#page/130/mode/1up
Birth record
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1869/03406/2249195.pdf
If this is Richard in 1901, there are two daughters there.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Grallagh/Cladagh/1767364/
I can’t see baptisms for them though.
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Here is Mary - I had been looking for Elizabeth as in James’ baptism.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1867/03482/2280094.pdf
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There are several baptisms with parents as Richard and Letitia/Hetitia/Helen Atkin/s.
The 1901 census looks a bit odd
Claddagh - house number 2 with Richard Fitzgerald, 75 yrs widower - already posted
Claddagh - house number 4 with Hetty Fitzgerald, 61 yrs widow.
There is a niece, Henrietta in 1911 in that household though so Hetty might be Henrietta and not Hester as I was thinking.
You are probably aware of all this though.
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Christenings for
Simon Fitzgerald
Birth 15 April 1865 ; Ardmore, Waterford
Parents Richard Fitzgerald, Hester ARKINS
Mary Fitzgerald
Birth 6 March 1867 ; Ardmore, Waterford
Parents Richard Fitzgerald, Hester ARKINS
Richard Fitzgerald
Birth 26 January 1871 ; Ardmore, Waterford
Parents Richard Fitzgerald, Hester ARKINS
Perhaps look here for a marriage --
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/1090
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I thought it was just a badly formed ‘t’ in James’ birth record but those civil births are also Atkin - good point, Neale1961
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There are more children in 1859, 61 and 63, Catherine, William and Brigid. All in parish register.
William is divergent - mother Anastasia, but probably an error.
No sign of a marriage, which is strange. Registers in Clashmore an adjacent parishes cover the period. in question.
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There are more children in 1859, 61 and 63, Catherine, William and Brigid. All in parish register.
Catharina Fitzgerald
Baptism 21 Dec 1859 Clashmore and Kinsalebeg, Waterford
Ricardi Fitzgerald and Hester Atkins
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632279?locale=en#page/75/mode/1up
Clashmore and Kinsalebeg
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0115
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Thank you to Heywood Neale1961 Wexflyer for all the helpful information on the Fitzgerald family. The only birth I had was James. Richard Fitzgerald died 8th March 1907 informant a daughter Johannah Hickey who married Richard Hickey in 1895 in Clashmore. I have failed to locate a death for Richard Fitzgeralds wife her christian name Hester/Henrietta is a little puzzling.
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Here is the death of Hetty Fitzgerald - informant is her son Richard
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05467/4530399.pdf
1901 census - she is at house 4 and a widow (mentioned earlier)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Grallagh/Cladagh/1767367/
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Death of Richard Fitzgerald in 1907 lists him as widower-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1907/05528/4549751.pdf
Widower Richard Fitzgerald in 1901 in Hickey household-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Grallagh/Cladagh/1767364/
Hetty Fitzgerald of Cladagh widow (also listed as widow in 1901 census as mentioned earlier) died 1909 and informant was son Richard-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05467/4530399.pdf
This is birth of Richard son of Richard Fitzgerald and Hester Arkins in 1871 at Cladagh-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1871/03307/2212141.pdf
In 1901 son Richard still in Cladagh with brother & a niece Henritta Tobin-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Grallagh/Cladagh/675736/
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Henrietta Tobin with parents and siblings in 1901-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Ballheeny/Kilmaloo_West/1767568/
Marriage of Jeremiah Tobin and Catherine Fitzgerald-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10592/5858955.pdf
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I wondered yesterday - and still do today - if the couple were living separately and for some strange reason were described as widows.
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There was a child Simon Fitzgerald mentioned by Neale.
I came across this death yesterday - 1904 Simon Atkins, 60 yrs of Beanfueld, Cork.
The informant William Fitzgerald, nephew, Clashmore.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05634/4585537.pdf
Claddagh, is in the parish of Clashmore.
Hetty Fitzgerald’s place of birth is Cork in 1901.
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Henrietta Tobin with parents and siblings in 1901-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Ballheeny/Kilmaloo_West/1767568/
Marriage of Jeremiah Tobin and Catherine Fitzgerald-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10592/5858955.pdf
Thank you for all information on the family. When Richard Fitzgerald b 1910 to James Fitzgerald & Hanora Hennessy went to Boston 1933 he gave his contact there as Julia Tobin a cousin
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There was a child Simon Fitzgerald mentioned by Neale.
I came across this death yesterday - 1904 Simon Atkins, 60 yrs of Beanfueld, Cork.
The informant William Fitzgerald, nephew, Clashmore.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1904/05634/4585537.pdf
Claddagh, is in the parish of Clashmore.
Hetty Fitzgerald’s place of birth is Cork in 1901.
Will check this Simon maybe brother to Hester Atkins Fitzgerald? Thank you
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A bit more to work on - possibilities but not sure it all works out. It could be just coincidence.
1901 census - Simon Atkins
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05410/4511654.pdf
Administration of his estate granted to his sister Sarah Atkins
Death of Sarah Atkins 1910 - informant Simon Fitzgerald nephew - residence Monearmore.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05410/4511654.pdf
Simon Fitzgerald in 1911 - Monearmore
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Clonpriest/Monearmore/912966/
His marriage - father Richard deceased
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/09978/5628170.pdf
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A bit more to work on - possibilities but not sure it all works out. It could be just coincidence.
1901 census - Simon Atkins
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05410/4511654.pdf
Administration of his estate granted to his sister Sarah Atkins
Death of Sarah Atkins 1910 - informant Simon Fitzgerald nephew - residence Monearmore.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05410/4511654.pdf
Simon Fitzgerald in 1911 - Monearmore
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Clonpriest/Monearmore/912966/
His marriage - father Richard deceased
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/09978/5628170.pdf
You got there before me Heywood had just found same info so Simon Fitzgerald wife Mary Manning inherited Farm from Simon Atkins. I checked for children but no joy. Thank you for all your research :)
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A bit more to work on - possibilities but not sure it all works out. It could be just coincidence.
1901 census - Simon Atkins
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05410/4511654.pdf
Administration of his estate granted to his sister Sarah Atkins
Death of Sarah Atkins 1910 - informant Simon Fitzgerald nephew - residence Monearmore.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05410/4511654.pdf
Simon Fitzgerald in 1911 - Monearmore
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Clonpriest/Monearmore/912966/
His marriage - father Richard deceased
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1910/09978/5628170.pdf
You got there before me Heywood had just found same info so Simon Fitzgerald wife Mary Manning inherited Farm from Simon Atkins. I checked for children but no joy. Thank you for all your research :)
Griffiths Valuation 1853 Mary Atkin Monearmore Parish Clonpriest holding 57 acres. Same address in Tithe Applotment records 1833 has a Simon Atkin. These probably parents of Hester Atkins. Death of Mary Atkins4th June 1886 Main St Youghal widow farmer age 80yrs Son Simon Atkins present
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Death of Mary Atkins4th June 1886 Main St Youghal widow farmer age 80yrs Son Simon Atkins present
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06247/4788913.pdf
Died at Beanfield townland. Her son Simon was the informant.
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/imokilly/clonpriest/clonpriest/beanfield/
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Death of Mary Atkins4th June 1886 Main St Youghal widow farmer age 80yrs Son Simon Atkins present
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06247/4788913.pdf
Died at Beanfield townland. Her son Simon was the informant.
https://www.townlands.ie/cork/imokilly/clonpriest/clonpriest/beanfield/
Thank you