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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => Topic started by: hexhamlad on Monday 02 March 26 18:18 GMT (UK)
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Looking to firm up details for William Gill b Prudhoe Norhumberland England 1876. There is a William Gill enlists at Timaru NZ in 1917 and gives his next of kin as Brother Thomas Gill of Prudhoe. William then appears to pop up in 1939 records living at Greenside Durham England with widowed Sister Elizabeth. Did he return from New Zealand, how can I find out ?.
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Connected post here
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=897017.msg7718308#msg7718308
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Arrival London from Brisbane 9.6.1939
William Gill aged 63 occ Clerk - address 39 Stanhope St Greenside Co Durham
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GILL, WILLIAM aged 63
GRO Reference: 1940 J Quarter in DURHAM CENTRAL Volume 10A Page 734
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Taken from other post.
Can I please offer up a different family for William (until proved incorrect)
GILLS, ELIZABETH mmn SCOTT
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 725
GILLS, WILLIAM mmn SCOTT
GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in HEXHAM Volume 10B Page 293
GILLS, THOMAS mmn SCOTT
GRO Reference: 1874 S Quarter in HEXHAM Volume 10B Page 282
GILLS, MATTHEW mmn SCOTT
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 727
Parents
Marriages Mar 1865
Gill Joseph Newcastle T 10b 55
Scott Jane Newcastle T 10b 55
1881 census -West Wylam, Prudhoe, Hexham, Northumberland, England
ref: 5101 38 31
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2WM-4M1L?lang=en
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Dob of the one who enlists in Timaru is 4 6 79. Or 4 June 1880 depending on which page you look at
Parents named as Joseph & Jane both deceased
When he was demobbed in 1919 he said he was 39
https://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE20046307
The one in 1939 has a birth date of 01 June 1876
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William travelled back from the UK in 1931
Name William Gill--39, Stanhope Street, Greenside, occupation Clerk
Gender Male
Departure Age 55
Birth Date abt 1876
[abt 1876]
Departure Date 19 Nov 1931
Departure Port England
Ship Name Rangitane
Shipping Line New Zealand Shipping Company Limited
Destination Port Wellington, New Zealand
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All of the details on his service record information look correct except his age but men often gave the incorrect age if eager to enlist. Interesting that he was discharged as he wasn't tall enough ( 4' 9" ) and wasn't of "Sufficient physique !!!
The obituary in 1940 also looks correct, he was living with his Sister, Mrs. Elizabeth at Greenside in 1939, see 1939 Register.
It's the time he was in New Zealand that is puzzling.
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All of the details on his service record information look correct except his age but men often gave the incorrect age if eager to enlist. Interesting that he was discharged as he wasn't tall enough ( 4' 9" ) and wasn't of "Sufficient physique !!!
The obituary in 1940 also looks correct, he was living with his Sister, Mrs. Elizabeth at Greenside in 1939, see 1939 Register.
It's the time he was in New Zealand that is puzzling.
With the two threads running the dates of the times he was in NZ are getting quite confused.
Could you please let us have the dates ie BDM as you know them and then include the dates he was in NZ. Clearly he was here in NZ to enlist, then possibly on the roll at Waimarino NZ in 1925.
Here in NZ we have a wonderful facility called Papers Past which has searchable links to newspapers.
https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/
I do know that around Waimarino in the 1910s/1920s the railways were big time and also forests were being felled and railed out. My grandfather was a clerk at timber felling firm around Oio around this time.