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Seeking please any information regarding the paternal side of my gg-grandmother, Rachel BECKWITH, born in 1811 i Bretton West, Yorkshire. According to the baptismal entry she was born illegitimate to Hannah nee BECKWITH. I understand of course I may never know who her father was, however according to an Ancestry suggestion prompt, the father may have been a George BECKWITH (1794-1854). Can someone find any credence in this theory? I cannot find a George BECKWITH in the area at that time and of that young age. I cannot follow up any other details per Ancestry as I do noy have a full membership! Any help here is much appreciated. Thank you. Cheers, Rob.
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Did she name a father when she married?
Did Hannah marry afterwards? It’s funny it says “nee” Beckwith on the baptism.
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There is NO indication in the image of the parish register of Rachel Beckwith's father's name. Baptisms of legitimate children are associated with the father (no mother's name shown) -
Baptisms in Sandall Magna - 25 March 1811 to 25 March 1812 (3 entries)
Sarah, daughter of William Littlewood .......
Rachel, illegitimate daughter of Hannah Beckwith ...
Thomas, illegitimate son of Sarah Helliwell ...
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No, Rachel did not name a father upon marriage. Hannah did not remarry as far as I know.
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Nee Beckwith indicates that was her maiden name.
“Hannah did not remarry” indicates she was or had been married? Doesn’t make sense to me.
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No, Rachel did not name a father upon marriage. Hannah did not remarry as far as I know.
Rachel married before civil registration, so no requirement to name a father.
She married Frederick Cowan at Silkstone on 8 Oct 1826. witnesses Thomas Sewell and Mary Buckley
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Some trees on Ancestry have Rachel's parents as George BECKWITH (born 1794 in Leeds) and Hannah (nee HARTLEY, born 1791, West Bretton). They apparently married in 1813 at Bradford. But I can see no evidence that this is the mother of Rachel BECKWITH baptised 1811.
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Thanks Maddy. No, I have not heard of this marriage and am also unsure about the validity of any connection to Rachel. Cheers, Rob.
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Some trees on Ancestry have Rachel's parents as George BECKWITH (born 1794 in Leeds) and Hannah (nee HARTLEY, born 1791, West Bretton). They apparently married in 1813 at Bradford. But I can see no evidence that this is the mother of Rachel BECKWITH baptised 1811.
If Rachel was Hannah Hartley's daughter born before her marriage, she would be baptised as Rachel Hartley.
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Nee Beckwith indicates that was her maiden name.
“Hannah did not remarry” indicates she was or had been married? Doesn’t make sense to me.
Can't find a marriage for Hannah Beckwith (either spinster or widow) locally at a suitable time. But there is a burial for a Hannah Beckwith age 49 residence Bretton in Silkstone on 17 Nov 1840. Could be her. (birth abt 1791)
Hannah is more likely to have been single when Rachel was baptised because the entry says illegitimate. However if she was a widow and her husband had died too long before to have fathered Rachel, the priest might have recorded illegitimate.
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Looking at the register of Woolley with West Bretton, there is a baptism for a Richard, natural son of Hannah Beckwith on 3 March 1814. Coincidence or Rachel's brother / half brother?
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Thanks Lizzie! I certainly have not spotted that one. In such a small locality I guess it looks like the 2 natural births are of siblings. Any ideas on how to locate the true father? Rob.
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Again maybe a co-incidence but there is a marriage of a Richard Cooper Beckwith in Sandal Magna on 20 Sep 1835 to Ellen Boon. Just seen transcript on FindMyPast so far but will see if there's an image somewhere
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Found image on Ancestry, witnesses were John and Elizabeth Worcester - all parties signed
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Thanks again Lizzie. I wonder if Richard's father was a Cooper? But then the issue would be why doesn't he carry that surname? Chrs, Rob
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I think the John Worcester is one born abt 1809 to John and Sarah, who married in Sandal Magna. He married Elizabeth Meacock in Cheshire
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Again maybe a co-incidence but there is a marriage of a Richard Cooper Beckwith in Sandal Magna on 20 Sep 1835 to Ellen Boon. Just seen transcript on FindMyPast so far but will see if there's an image somewhere
Forget Richard Cooper just found his baptism in Leeds on 03 Jun 1814 s/o William and Mary
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Richard wouldn’t carry the Cooper surname if he was illegitimate. Middle names are often a decent clue you can follow in these cases.
Just one point I can’t see that it says “nee Beckwith” on the baptism for Rachel? Just Hannah Beckwith.
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Richard wouldn’t carry the Cooper surname if he was illegitimate. Middle names are often a decent clue you can follow in these cases.
Just one point I can’t see that it says “nee Beckwith” on the baptism for Rachel? Just Hannah Beckwith.
I think "nee" is OP's invention.
On FindMyPast I have found transcripts of some events at Silkstone / and its various chapelries. for beckwiths
Richard buried 1799 s/o John (implying he was a child when he died. John buried 1797 no age on transcript. Rachel buried 1824/5 age 72 (b 1752/3) . Another John 1812 No age given.
Can't find them on Ancestry yet.
If the Hannah burial I found was correct, then she was born about 1791. Could Richard be her brother and John her father? Rachel snr could be her mother if Hannah was last of a large family or possibly her grandmother. Or just a coincidence of names?
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Hannah's baptism indexed as Beckquith
26 Feb 1791 d/o John no mother recorded, Bretton chapel
So looks like the one buried in 1840
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I think some of the Silkstone Beckwiths may have been recorded / transcribed as Beckit(t)s
There is a marriage for a John Beckitt and Rachel Adamson at Silkstone in 1773, which is right sort of time given Rachel's age at death. This couple might be Hannah's parents.
Richard Beckit son of Hannah single woman buried 26 Nov 1819 age 5 at Silkstone.
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Good work & thanks Lizzie!