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Title: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: Lidfam on Wednesday 25 February 26 18:53 GMT (UK)
Hi. I really need some help with my brick wall please. My 5x g.grandfather John Lidbury was baptised in 1708 in Berkley, Somerset the son of Francis and Joan Lidbury. The surname was rare in the village , however was very common indeed a few miles away in Warminster. I have a comprehensive tree of the Lidburys of Warminster, and it is certain that Francis was bp in 1673 the son of Austin. He had 7 children bp. in Warminster up until 1705 but the mother's name does not appear in any of the bp registers. John is then baptised in 1708 in nearby Berkley where Joan is listed as the mother. Now, my problem is that many researchers across several major FH websites are listing Francis as having married a Joan in 1694 and that she was the mother of his children. None of these researchers list a source. Francis and Joan were indeed buried at Berkley, where they seem to have moved between 1705 and 1708 , as there was no sign of them before John's baptism. I have two questions really. Did somebody just see Francis and Joan at Berkley and assume that it was the same Francis who was fathering children in Warminster with no named wife, and over the years other researchers have just gone with this theory and added it to their trees. Or secondly, is there any other resource that I could find that will give me the marriage of Francis Lidbury to a Joan c 1694 if it did , indeed, take place. I have tried everything I can think of. Thankyou for your time.
                 Dale Lidbury
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: *Sandra* on Wednesday 25 February 26 19:27 GMT (UK)
Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1531-1812

Not helpful but i see a burial in 1711 Joan wife of Francis Lidbury/Lydbury- could have been June 4th 1711 Berkley.

Burial - July 22 or 1722 ?  Francis Lydbury - Berkley.

Sandra
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: Lidfam on Wednesday 25 February 26 19:38 GMT (UK)
Thankyou Sandra. Yes, those are the burials I mentioned in my post, however it is their marriage I am desperately seeking. Everything points to Warminster but try as I might, I cannot find it.
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: amondg on Thursday 26 February 26 11:07 GMT (UK)
Affidavit on ancestry for the administration of the estate of Francis Lidbury

Francis Lidbury of Warminster died 1711 his wife Elizabeth widow.

He apparently did not leave a will, other bondsman is Benjamin Dyer
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: Lidfam on Thursday 26 February 26 11:31 GMT (UK)
Thankyou. There were several Francis Lidburys in Warminster at this time, and this is not mine. My Francis died and buried at Berkley in 1722.
                     Dale
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: amondg on Thursday 26 February 26 11:48 GMT (UK)
Your Francis Lydbury was buried 22 July 1721 Berkley Parish register

The register has faded Thomas Lydbury August 1723 buried
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: hanes teulu on Thursday 26 February 26 12:47 GMT (UK)
Thankyou. There were several Francis Lidburys in Warminster at this time, and this is not mine. My Francis died and buried at Berkley in 1722.
                     Dale
Amondg,
About to query year 1722 after viewing image which showed 22 July 1721
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: Lidfam on Thursday 26 February 26 17:12 GMT (UK)
Yes, 1721 is correct.
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: teragram31510 on Thursday 26 February 26 18:09 GMT (UK)
Just to add to information and in case it has been missed:
Berkley registers:
July 8th 1694 Thomas Lydbury married Sarah Adams
November 22 1722 Francis Lydbury married Sarah Lucas
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: hanes teulu on Thursday 26 February 26 19:07 GMT (UK)
I was taking the Lydbury/Lucas marriage as a pointer that the family did move from Warminster to Berkely. I'd identified 7 Warminster baptisms that, hopefully, might pop in Berkeley as burials/marriages that supported the family moving.
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 28 February 26 11:40 GMT (UK)
A child of FRANCIS Lybury buried Oct 1705 St Mary, Berkley
(FreeREG)

The Marriage of Francis Jnr is there also 22 Nov 1722 and a Marriage of a ELIZABETH Lidbury to James MILLS 03 Nov 1726

+ Burials;
MARY Lidbury 21 Apr 1763 Wife of AUSTIN
AUGUSTINE Lidbury 07 Nov 1768 (1 Bapt 1703 Warminster?)

Marriage possible?
AUSTINE Lidbery 24 May 1724 St George Beckington
Spouse CARPENTER, no 1st name noted or unreadable


Trish :)
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 28 February 26 12:07 GMT (UK)
ELIZABETH Mills bapt 23 Jun 1728 Berkley to JAMES/ELIZABETH
Notes posthumous
Cant see anything else for them.
Did James die?
adjective: posthumous
occurring, awarded, or appearing after the death of the originator.
"he was awarded a posthumous Military Cross"
(of a child) born after the death of its father.
"Newton was the posthumous son of an illiterate yeoman"
Title: Re: Francis / Joan Lidbury
Post by: Lidfam on Monday 02 March 26 08:46 GMT (UK)
Thanks to everyone who replied. It is believed that Thomas Lydbury who married Sarah Adams, was my Francis's brother, and the Francis who married in 1722 was Thomas's son.