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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Devon => Topic started by: Mamspice on Tuesday 24 February 26 21:03 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I'm struggling to find a birth and wondered if someone might know what else I can try. I'm looking for a William James Moore, born 1868. I can only find him on 2 census', 1901 and 1911 when he is married. His birthplace on one is stated as Coyton (which obviously doesn't exist) the other one just says England! He died in 1911. He is down as James Moore on his marriage certificate, with just a line through the fathers section. Any ideas on how to find his birth date/place and his mums name?
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Does Coyton have a County or is that the only word? Who did he marry please?
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I can see a census 1911 with Coyton Devon is that the one?
There is a Coryton Devon under Tavistock district and a James Moore birth in 1868.
Perhaps he added the William later on.
Can you find him as just James in earlier census?
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There's Coryton in Devon? In Tavistock RD.
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I can see a census 1911 with Coyton Devon is that the one?
There is a Coryton Devon under Tavistock district and a James Moore birth in 1868.
Perhaps he added the William later on.
Can you find him as just James in earlier census?
Yeah thats the one, married to Mary. I guess he could have gone by just James, I can see one but he's a servant so still no luck on the mum
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There's Coryton in Devon? In Tavistock RD.
It's possible ???
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Or Colyton, Devon (just north of Seaton, east of Exeter)?
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I can see a census 1911 with Coyton Devon is that the one?
There is a Coryton Devon under Tavistock district and a James Moore birth in 1868.
Perhaps he added the William later on.
Can you find him as just James in earlier census?
1871 census ref 2144 38 22---1881 ref 2218 115 31
parents James R (Richard) and Mary Ann
MOORE, JAMES mmn WARNE
GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in TAVISTOCK Volume 05B Page 361
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Marriages Sep 1855
MOORE James Richard Stoke D. 5b 520
WARN Mary Ann Stoke D 5b 520
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I can see a census 1911 with Coyton Devon is that the one?
There is a Coryton Devon under Tavistock district and a James Moore birth in 1868.
Perhaps he added the William later on.
Can you find him as just James in earlier census?
1871 census ref 2144 38 22---1881 ref 2218 115 31
parents James R (Richard) and Mary Ann
MOORE, JAMES mmn WARNE
GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in TAVISTOCK Volume 05B Page 361
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Marriages Sep 1855
MOORE James Richard Stoke D. 5b 520
WARN Mary Ann Stoke D 5b 520
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If James was born to married parents why would his father's name be blank on his marriage record?
Here's another possibility for 1891
Piece number 1758, Folio 93, Page 10
James Moore b abt 1868 Colliton Somerset, living in Devon. The Colyton near Seaton isn't too far from Somerset border and can't find a Colliton or close in Somerset.
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And another James (Southcott) Moore illeg son of Thirza born Kennerleigh, some distance away from Colyton, but could the place name have got confused. ?
1881
Piece number 2227, Folio 115, Page 9
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There's a likely Thirza Moore d/o James b abt 1847 living in Kennerleigh in 1851 and 1861
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Can't be this James, found him in 1921 with family and Thirza is with them
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Did James's widow Mary marry again to an Alfred Moore? James and Mary's son Cedric Charles gives an A Moore as nok on his military record and J & M's daughter Bessie is with Alfred and Mary in 1921
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What was Mary Pedrick's/Pederick's father's given name (if present on marr. cert.) - Thomas or Francis possibly?
Added - I'm looking at James Moore, born 1866, Bow living in Spreyton in '81 and Mary Pedric/Pedrick in nearby Zeal Monachorum.
Added - I'm discounting the above James. Appears to be the James, born Bow, in 1901 and 1911 Census.
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Did James's widow Mary marry again to an Alfred Moore? James and Mary's son Cedric Charles gives an A Moore as nok on his military record and J & M's daughter Bessie is with Alfred and Mary in 1921
Hi, yes she did marry Alfred. I thought it might be a brother but couldn't find any link
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Did James's widow Mary marry again to an Alfred Moore? James and Mary's son Cedric Charles gives an A Moore as nok on his military record and J & M's daughter Bessie is with Alfred and Mary in 1921
Hi, yes she did marry Alfred. I thought it might be a brother but couldn't find any link
I believe Alfred's parents were Robert and Elizabeth(Webber). 1921 records he was born in the Parish of Bow, Devon. 1871/81 finds him in Bow with parents but no sign of a James/William James with mmn Webber in the census.
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Did James's widow Mary marry again to an Alfred Moore? James and Mary's son Cedric Charles gives an A Moore as nok on his military record and J & M's daughter Bessie is with Alfred and Mary in 1921
Hi, yes she did marry Alfred. I thought it might be a brother but couldn't find any link
I believe Alfred's parents were Robert and Elizabeth(Webber). 1921 records he was born in the Parish of Bow, Devon. 1871/81 finds him in Bow with parents but no sign of a James/William James with mmn Webber in the census.
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I came to the same conclusion.
I think James / William James is illegitimate. Moore is quite a common surname so J /WJ may not be related to Alfred or it may go back a couple of generations and they are distant cousins. Did Robert Moore have a sister who could have given birth to J/WJ.?
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This young man I cannot find after 1871 census ref 2209 67 10, grandson.
Believe below is his birth.
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I think I have William (grandad) on 1861 and 1851, but doesn't seem to have a son James who fathered James 1869
Piece number 1507, Folio 74, Page 6
Piece number 1895, Folio 727, Page 15
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I think chances are he was born William James but by the time of marriage he just went by the name James?
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I think chances are he was born William James but by the time of marriage he just went by the name James?
On which events is he listed as William James as opposed to James?
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Reply #12 - can you confirm Mary Pendrick's father's given name (if name on cert)?
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I think chances are he was born William James but by the time of marriage he just went by the name James?
On which events is he listed as William James as opposed to James?
On the 1901 and 1911 census' plus his death certificate
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Reply #12 - can you confirm Mary Pendrick's father's given name (if name on cert)?
He's Francis Pedrick
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Thanks for confiming
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He is James in 1901, not William James. In 1911 his wife Mary completed the census.
Debra :)
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He is James in 1901, not William James. In 1911 his wife Mary completed the census.
Debra :)
That's what I found too
Possibly she was informant on his death as well.
they had a son, William James, so perhaps she got muddled and thought it was her husband's full name too
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There might be a newspaper article about his death in May but I can't find it. He got kicked in the stomach by a horse on the farm he worked
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Just another thought, his son named him as William James on his own marriage certificate. I was thinking senior went by James so as not to confuse things in the home