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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: walterh78 on Friday 20 February 26 01:48 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone,
I am researching the story of my great-great-grandfather, William Edward Richmond, and I have hit a "brick wall" between 1851 and 1877. I would deeply appreciate any clues or guidance from the local experts in Durham.
Here is what I have gathered so far:
• Origin: William was born around 1841 in Onchan, Isle of Man. He was the son of Francis Hale (or Hall?) Richmond and Ruth Croser.
• Move to Durham: After his father's death, the family moved to the Gateshead/Heworth area. I found them in the 1851 Census living at Nile Street, Gateshead.
• The Family in 1851: Ruth (widow, 46) was living with her children: Frances Ann (20), Henry John (19, Sailor), Joseph (16, Ship Broker’s Clerk), Frank Hall (14), Mary Elizabeth (12), and William Edward (10).
• Final Destination: William reappears in 1877 in Ayacucho, Argentina, where he married Lidia Cruz. He was Protestant.
What I am looking for:
1. Any record of William in the 1861 or 1871 Censuses in the Durham or Newcastle area.
2. Given that his older brothers (Henry and Joseph) worked in the shipping industry, I suspect William might have left for Argentina from Liverpool or Newcastle, perhaps working aboard a ship.
3. Any trace of his mother, Ruth Richmond (née Croser). I suspect she died in Durham after 1851, possibly living with her daughter Frances Ann (who married Benjamin Barkus).
Does anyone have access to parish records for Gateshead/Heworth or merchant navy/apprentice lists from that era that might mention the Richmonds?
Thank you very much from Argentina for any help you can provide!
Best regards,
Walter
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Ruth was living with Frances and Benjamin in the 1871 Census, High Street West, Gateshead. (RG10/5060, Folio 7, Page 7)
Benjamin Barkus Head - Male 50 1821 Doctor of medicine Lamsley, Durham, England
Frances A Barkus Wife - Female 39 1832 - Edinburgh, Scotland
Ruth Richmond Mother - Female 67 1804 -
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1881 Census shows that she was lodging at 9, Banks Terrace, Hurworth, Darlington.
Ruth Richmond Lodger Widow Female 77 1804 Annuitant
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Ruth Richmond's death was registered Quarter 3, 1885, Darlington District, Volume 10a, Page 9
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Not directly relevant to the query but this may be of interest.
28 August 1885: Newcastle Courant
Mrs Ruth Richmond, formerly of Gateshead, who died last week at the advanced age of 81, was the mother of the late Mrs Barkus, wife of Dr Barkus of St. Mary’s Place, Newcastle, whom she survived nearly two years. Mrs Richmond was the relict of the late Mr F. H. Richmond, a solicitor, and younger son of the late Major Richmond, J.P., of Humshaugh House, Northumberland. Her father, Mr Crozer, was a partner in the old and respected firm of Surtees and Crozer, wire merchants of this town, and he formerly resided at Kenton Lodge.
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walterh78 said 'William was born around 1841 in Onchan, Isle of Man'
William was baptised on the 3rd February 1841 in Onchan.
(snippet image courtesy of FamilySearch)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZ1W-G9R?lang=en
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Ruth Croser’s baptism
Newcastle-upon-Tyne, All Saints
20 Feb 1805 Ruth Croser, born 25 Jan 1804, 4th daughter of Joseph Croser (merchant, [native] of Tanfield, Durham) by his wife Ruth Oliver (daughter of Robert Oliver, draper, of St Nicholas)
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Hi,
Thank you very much to users AllanUK and AlanBoyd for the incredible information about Ruth Croser and the Richmond family.
I assume you gathered some of this data from FindMyPast. I am registered there but don't have a paid membership yet, though I use FamilySearch extensively as it links to many of those records.
To provide more context and avoid duplicating efforts, here is the information I have collected so far:
Marriage of Francis Hall Richmond and Ruth Croser, 10 January 1828, St Andrew, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPQC-TKCW (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPQC-TKCW)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPQC-TKC4 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPQC-TKC4)
Baptism of Joseph, son of Francis Hall and Ruth Croser, born 6 July 1834.
Baptism of Francis Hall, son of Francis Hall and Ruth Croser, born 9 June 1836.
Both baptized on October 19, 1836, in Kirk Onchan.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSHS-S93N-T (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSHS-S93N-T) (image 139 of 545)
Microfilm: https://www.familysearch.org/es/search/film/007904843 (https://www.familysearch.org/es/search/film/007904843)
Baptism of Mary Elizabeth, daughter of Francis Hall and Ruth Croser, born 6 July 1838.
Date of baptism: December 10, 1838. Place: Onchan, Isle of Man.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZ1W-255 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZ1W-255)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSHS-S93Q-G (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSHS-S93Q-G) (image 142 of 545)
Baptism of William Edward Richmond.
Date of baptism: February 3, 1841. Place: Onchan, Isle of Man.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZ1W-G9R
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-651N-SB
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSHS-S93W-B (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSHS-S93W-B) (image 145 of 545)
England and Wales, Census, 1841 (Onchan, Isle of Man):
Francis Hale Richmond - 35 years old (born c. 1802-1806, England)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5J1 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5J1)
Ruth Richmond (neé Croser?) - 35 years old (c. 1802-1806, England)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5VM (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5VM)
Frances Richmond (female) - 11 years old (c. 1830, Scotland)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5V9
Henry Richmond - 9 years old (c. 1832, Bradden, Isle of Man)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5VS (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5VS)
Joseph Richmond - 7 years old (c. 1834, Onchan, Isle of Man)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5V3 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5V3)
Francis Richmond - 5 years old (c. 1836, Onchan, Isle of Man)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5VQ (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5VQ)
Mary Richmond - 2 years old (c. 1839, Onchan, Isle of Man)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5V7 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5V7)
William Richmond – 6 months old? (c. 1841, Onchan, Isle of Man)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5VW (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7W9-5VW)
England and Wales, Census, 1851 (Heworth, Durham, England):
Ruth Richmond (neé Croser?) - 46 years old (c. 1805, Newcastle, Northumberland) – marital status: widow.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QVP (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QVP)
Frances Ann Richmond - 20 years old (c. 1831, Scotland) - unmarried
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QV5 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QV5)
Henry John Richmond - 19 years old (c. 1832, Bradden, Isle of Man) - unmarried
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QVR (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QVR)
Joseph Richmond - 16 years old (c. 1835, Onchan, Isle of Man) - unmarried
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QVT (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QVT)
Frank Hall Richmond - 14 years old (c. 1837, Onchan, Isle of Man)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QVY (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QVY)
Mary Elizth Richmond - 12 years old (c. 1839, Onchan, Isle of Man)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGBX-SPV (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGBX-SPV)
William Edward Richmond - 10 years old (c. 1841, Onchan, Isle of Man)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QVB (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGV3-QVB)
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More information that I find:
Marriage Frances Anne Richmond and Doctor Benjamin Barkus. 23 Apr 1852, Durham, England.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q293-C2D2 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q293-C2D2)
British Newspaper Archive, Family Notices
Francis Hall Richmond, Esq – Date of death: 1859 - Place: Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPCN-LHD6 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPCN-LHD6)
England and Wales, Census, 1871 (Gateshead, Durham, England)
Frances A Barkus (neé Richmond) – 39 years old (c. 1832, Edinburg, Scotland) – Marital status: married.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB8Q-Y4D (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB8Q-Y4D)
England and Wales, Census, 1871 (Village, Barby, Warwickshire, England)
Mary Elizth Richmond – 32 years old (c. 1839, Glendho, Isle of Man) – Relationship with the head of the family: visitor - Marital status: unknown.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDDM-QM7 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KDDM-QM7)
England and Wales, Census, 1881 (Hurworth, Durham, England)
Frances A Barkus (neé Richmond) – 49 years old (c. 1832, Edinburg, Scotland) – Marital status: married.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-5DS7 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-5DS7)
England and Wales, Census, 1881 (Gateshead, Durham, England)
Mary E ? – 42 years old (c. 1839, Glendoo, Isle of Man) - Relationship with the head of the family: lodger - Marital status: single.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKX5-RM15 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKX5-RM15)
England and Wales, Census, 1891 (Jesmond, Northumberland, England)
Mary E Richmond – 52 years old (c. 1839, Isle of man) – Relationship with the head of the family: sister-in-law - Marital status: single.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HSJR-9N2 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HSJR-9N2)
England and Wales, Census, 1901 (Ideford, Devonshire, England)
Mary E Richmond – 62 years old (c. 1839, Onchan, Isle of man) – Relationship with the head of the family: boarder - Marital status: single.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSW6-1C2 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSW6-1C2)
Grave of Frances Ann Richmond and her husband Benjamin Barkus
https://es.findagrave.com/memorial/197072624/frances_anne-barkus
https://es.findagrave.com/memorial/197072625/benjamin-barkus
Marriage of Guillermo Eduardo (William Edward) Richmond and Lidia Cruz. 26 Jun 1877, Nuestra Señora de la Purificación, Ayacucho, Ayacucho, Buenos Aires, Argentina
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGPN-FKX5
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGPN-FKXB
Baptism of María Richmond, daughter of Guillermo Eduardo Richmond and Lidia Cruz, born 8 December 1879.
Date of baptism: January 2, 1880. Place: San José, Balcarce, Buenos Aires, Argentina.
She’s my grand-grand-mother.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XFY8-GQX
Concluding remarks:
As you can see, my great-great-grandfather, William Edward Richmond, appears in the 1841 and 1851 censuses as a child in Onchan and Durham, but then disappears from UK records, reappearing in Argentina in 1877 for his marriage.
The information regarding the obituary in the Newcastle Courant is a massive breakthrough. Knowing that his father, Francis Hall Richmond, was a solicitor and his grandfather was Major Richmond of Humshaugh House, perfectly explains the family's social standing and why William might have had the resources to settle in Argentina.
I didn't want to overwhelm the thread with too many links in my first post, but I hope this helps to narrow down our search. My main goal now is to find more details about William's life between 1851 and 1877, or perhaps a mention of him in any family wills (like his mother Ruth’s in 1885) that might confirm his residence in South America.
Thank you again for your amazing help!
Best regards,
Walter
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Will of Joseph Croser
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XX87-G9M?lang=en&i=0
Will of Ruth Croser
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PS7-VXP?lang=en&i=0
No luck with William in the census.
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I found a tree on family search
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u8l/
and had a look at the sources for William; there is a Buenos Aires Census 1869 sourced which looks like the 3 brothers together, census image
Guillermo Richmomd
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u8m/
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I found a tree on family search
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u8l/
and had a look at the sources for William; there is a Buenos Aires Census 1869 sourced which looks like the 3 brothers together, census image
Guillermo Richmomd
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u8m/
Thank you willsy! That 1869 Census is a fantastic find. It perfectly matches the siblings we saw in the 1851 UK Census.
A few interesting details I noticed in that image:
The Ages: They match perfectly with the birth years we found for Henry (c. 1832), Joseph (c. 1834), and William (c. 1841).
- Henry’s Status: He is listed as a Widower (V - Viudo). This suggests he might have married and lost his wife before 1869, possibly in England or shortly after arriving in Argentina.
- Occupation: They are all listed as 'Hacendados' (Landowners/Ranchers), which aligns with the social standing of a Solicitor’s family.
This confirms that the brothers emigrated together (or followed each other) to establish themselves in the cattle business.
Since they were 'Hacendados' by 1869, I suspect there might be land records or a probate file (succession) in Argentina. I am currently contacting local archives in La Pampa and Guaminí to find William's death record.
Thank you again for linking the family so clearly!
Walter
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You're welcome and thank for the translation, my daughter was not here to help!
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Found an announcement for Henry in the Newcastle Journal
06 February 1864
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...and below sadly in the deaths
06 February 1864
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Passenger list for Joseph, 2 records
http://www.entradadepasajeros.com.ar/vas.php
Death of Francis in the paper as Hale
1 Jul 1859
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There is an administration record for him dated 21 May 1887, address here as 1 High-West-street, grant to his sister Mary Elizabeth Richmond, spinster, 3 Jesmond Terrace, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Just can't find anyone 1861 ???
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Passenger list for Joseph, 2 records
http://www.entradadepasajeros.com.ar/vas.php (http://www.entradadepasajeros.com.ar/vas.php)
Death of Francis in the paper as Hale
1 Jul 1859
Thank you again willsy!
If I am not mistaken, you are referring to the Newcastle Journal newspaper record, which is linked to the following FamilySearch link:
British Newspaper Archive, Family Notices
Francis Hall Richmond, Esq – Date of death: 1859 - Place: Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPCN-LHD6 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPCN-LHD6)
I don't have access to the image associated with this one. Thank you very much for sharing the screenshot.
I also couldn't find any of the Richmonds in the 1861 census on FamilySearch. They appear directly in the 1871 census.
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Yes it does refer to that newspaper article.
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Passenger list for Joseph, 2 records
http://www.entradadepasajeros.com.ar/vas.php
Death of Francis in the paper as Hale
1 Jul 1859
Thank you again and again!!!! :)
(https://www.entradadepasajeros.com.ar/vpintar.php?k=NDI4NTU4MDYyOS0zMjkzNjUx)
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You're welcome, will have a look again tomorrow, its a bit late here!
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Will of Joseph Croser
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XX87-G9M?lang=en&i=0 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XX87-G9M?lang=en&i=0)
Will of Ruth Croser
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PS7-VXP?lang=en&i=0 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6PS7-VXP?lang=en&i=0)
No luck with William in the census.
Thank you fiddlerslass for the wills!