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Title: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Pheno on Wednesday 18 February 26 12:58 GMT (UK)
The answer is probably staring me in the face but I can't see it.

Jane appears on the 1881 census RG11/ Piece 2077/Folio 48/Pg 8  as a 10 year old daughter, so b/c/1871, with her parents William (Thomas) Best & Agnes Read.

William & Agnes were married 1872 Tisbury so after Jane's birth.  I cannot find Jane's birth reg as either Best or Read - wondered if someone else might have more luck.

Regards, Pheno
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: jrc11 on Wednesday 18 February 26 13:27 GMT (UK)
A possibility. There was a birth of Jane Best in q4 1868 in Tisbury. MMN Best
Regards
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 18 February 26 14:24 GMT (UK)
Can you find Agnes in 1871?  Depending when Jane was born she could have a baby with her.
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 18 February 26 14:28 GMT (UK)
Birthplace for Jane in 1881 is Southampton
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 18 February 26 14:54 GMT (UK)
Agnes was not with her parents George and Matilda in Tisbury 1871.

They did have another granddaughter with them but no female who could be her mother
READ, ROSE  ELLEN     - 
GRO Reference: 1866  Sept Quarter in TISBURY  Volume 05A  Page 201
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 18 February 26 15:16 GMT (UK)
Do you have William Best in 1871  :-\
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 18 February 26 15:46 GMT (UK)
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A possibility. There was a birth of Jane Best in q4 1868 in Tisbury. MMN Best

Could be the Jane Best age 2 with George & Emily Gane in 1871

Emily Best marriage in 1870
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 18 February 26 15:48 GMT (UK)
What happens to William, Agnes & Jane after 1881  :-\
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 18 February 26 16:13 GMT (UK)
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They did have another granddaughter with them but no female who could be her mother
READ, ROSE  ELLEN     -
GRO Reference: 1866  Sept Quarter in TISBURY  Volume 05A  Page 201

Maybe she belonged to Agnes as well.  I can't see any older children on earlier census who could be the mother. 
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Pheno on Wednesday 18 February 26 17:34 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all your replies and apologies for not replying sooner but I don't receive notifications so have to look at unread posts but was busy sorting something else out this afternoon.

No I don't have William & Agnes after 1881.

I wondered about Jane Best aka Matilda Jane Best who is with William's married sister Emily Gane in 1871 where the relationship is daughter as it is to William & Agnes in 1881 so both seem to be claiming her as their daughter.  Maybe that is what happened - could William have brought up his sister's illegitimate child as he had none of his own?

By 1891 she is married and living in London so only with either family for one census each.

Pheno
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 18 February 26 21:02 GMT (UK)
Do you mean Jane is married by 1891?  Any idea who she names as her father? 

Jane Best 2 with Emily Gane in 1871 is still with Emily Gane in 1881 as Jane Gane age 12 so she can’t be the same Jane age 10 with Agnes in 1881. 

Sorry where does the name Matilda come in?
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Pheno on Wednesday 18 February 26 21:32 GMT (UK)
Yes she is married by 1891 but I have not had sight of her marriage record to know whom she names as her father.

In both the 1911 & 1921 censuses she is named as Matilda Jane Wigmore (née Best).

Pheno
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 19 February 26 11:44 GMT (UK)
Certainly odd because the Southampton birthplace that Jane had pops up again with Matilda.
Sometimes Tisbury.

Is she alive in 1939 to know an exact date of birth? **

** No she isn’t.

Emily Gane has 8 children all alive in 1911.
Jane, Henry, Charles, William, Anne, Mary, Lucy, Alice. 

So I can’t see where the “other Jane” has gone  :-\.  Disappeared along with Agnes.

Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 19 February 26 13:26 GMT (UK)
There’s a William 42 & Agnes Best 40 in Finchley in 1891.  Right ages but says both born London  :-\
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 19 February 26 14:51 GMT (UK)
There’s a William 42 & Agnes Best 40 in Finchley in 1891.  Right ages but says both born London  :-\

Deaths Mar 1896   
Best    Agnes    aged 47    Barnet    3a   153

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Marriages Mar 1898   
Best    William Thomas        Salisbury    5a   249    
Soper    Letitia Jane        Salisbury    5a   249   Image on Ancestry

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1901 at same address as 1891


1911 census still at same address
William born 1852 Tisbury
Letitia born Salisbury
Letitia born Finchley

BEST, LETITIA  MARY     mmn SOPER 
GRO Reference: 1908  D Quarter in BARNET  Volume 03A  Page 401 

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easily found in 1921 census.

Deaths Sep 1935   
Best    William T    84    Barnet    3a   466

Deaths Mar 1937   
Best    Letitia J    70    Barnet    3a   819
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 19 February 26 15:46 GMT (UK)
Well there you go, two mysteries solved there  :)
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Pheno on Thursday 19 February 26 15:58 GMT (UK)
Well thank you very much everyone for helping to solve this one.

Regards, Pheno
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 19 February 26 16:08 GMT (UK)
Still the mystery of the double Jane (or could be me just not getting it straight) but progress. 
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 19 February 26 16:21 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: Milliepede on Thursday 19 February 26 16:29 GMT (UK)
SS you just beat me to doing that! 

As suspected then Emily who married Mr Gane was the mother of Jane number 2 and we have no birth for Jane number 1 who is with Agnes.

Such a mystery one but tea is calling.
Title: Re: Jane Best b.c.1871 Tisbury RD
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 19 February 26 16:31 GMT (UK)
If we find the other Jane the coffee is on you  ;D

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