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Title: Samuel Wilcox Born Cropwell Butler in 1887
Post by: Meggiejayne on Monday 16 February 26 16:13 GMT (UK)
Good afternoon

I'm trying to find a marriage for a Samuel Wilcox. He was born Cropwell Butler, Notts on 22 January 1887 according to the 1939 Register and different Census Returns.

He was the son of Robert and Kate Wilcox.

I have located him in 1939 married to Susan where he is living in Eastgate, Sleaford.

in 1921 the family are resident in Air Street, Hull as boarders, where he is working for the Electric Light Company.

In 1911 he is with his parents living at South Kyme Fen, Lincs and his sister Ethel Mary.

He and Susan have sons, Albert Edward and Leslie both born in Horbling 1915 and 1917.

I cannot find a corresponding marriage for Samuel and Susan. Albert's birth registration gives MMN as Walker and Census returns give Susan's birth place as Amber Hill, which I know having lived near there is not too far from Boston. 

I'm assuming that the marriage took place somewhere within Lincolnshire but the Wilcox family do seem to move around a bit.

I've found Susan as a servant in New York in 1911 but no other reference to her elsewhere.

Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Samuel Wilcox Born Cropwell Butler in 1887
Post by: ColC on Monday 16 February 26 16:32 GMT (UK)
Just for info. mmn may be a transcription error?

WILCOX, LESLIE       WALLAR 
GRO Reference: 1916  S Quarter in BOURNE  Volume 07A  Page 620

Colin
Title: Re: Samuel Wilcox Born Cropwell Butler in 1887
Post by: ColC on Monday 16 February 26 16:34 GMT (UK)
Marriages Sep 1914   on freebmd.
WILLCOX    Samuel    Walker    Lincoln    7a   1248

Colin   
Title: Re: Samuel Wilcox Born Cropwell Butler in 1887
Post by: Meggiejayne on Monday 16 February 26 18:09 GMT (UK)
Thank you - that looks a definite possible. This family were all over the place so Lincoln is more than probable.
Title: Re: Samuel Wilcox Born Cropwell Butler in 1887
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 16 February 26 18:56 GMT (UK)
I wonder if Susan Ellen Walker’s birth was registered as Ellen Walker
Susan E(llen) Wilcox dob 3 Nov 1891

FreeBMD

WALKER Ellen    Boston   Dec qtr.  1891 7a   421

Amber Hill is in the registration district of Boston

This is the reference from GRO indexes showing mothers maiden name

WALHER, ELLEN       mmn DICKINSON
GRO Reference: 1891  D Quarter in BOSTON  Volume 07A  Page 421

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Title: Re: Samuel Wilcox Born Cropwell Butler in 1887
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 16 February 26 19:12 GMT (UK)
You would need Susan’s marriage certificate to confirm fathers name and occupation

As a possibility 1901 but her name is Nelly  :-\ could be a pet name

1901
Piece   3041
Folio   104
Page number   1
John Walker 67 Head Norwich, Norfolk
Sarah Walker 40 Wife Billinghay, Lincolnshire
Mary Walker 18 Dau Amber Hill, Lincolnshire
William Walker   11   Son Amber Hill, Lincolnshire
Nelly Walker 9 Dau Amber Hill, Lincolnshire

WALKER, MARY       mmn DICKINSON 
GRO Reference: 1883  J Quarter in BOSTON  Volume 07A  Page 461

WALKER, WILLIAM       mmn DICKINSON 
GRO Reference: 1889  D Quarter in BOSTON  Volume 07A  Page 445

1891c
Piece   2576
Folio   123
John Walker 59   Head farm labourer
Sarah Walker 35   Wife
Elizabeth Walker 11   Daughter
John Walker 10   Son
Mary Walker 9   Daughter
Edward Walker 7   Son
Nancy Walker 5   Daughter
Charlotte Walker   3   Daughter
William Walker 1   Son

WALKER, CHARLOTTE       mmn DICKINSON 
GRO Reference: 1888  J Quarter in BOSTON  Volume 07A  Page 476

1881
Piece   3220
Folio   151
Page number   5
John Walker 37 Head
Sarah Walker 22 Wife
Eliza Walker 1 Daughter
John Walker Son 6mths

WALKER, JOHN       Mmn DICKINSON 
GRO Reference: 1880  D Quarter in BOSTON  Volume 07A  Page 424

Marriage Sep 1879 Boston Lincolnshire Volume   7a Page   577
John Walker
Female name on same page
Sarah Dickenson

Added above 1879 marriage transcribed on https://www.freereg.org.uk/
Title: Re: Samuel Wilcox Born Cropwell Butler in 1887
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 16 February 26 20:11 GMT (UK)
Quote
He was the son of Robert and Kate Wilcox.

Cropwell Butler came under Bingham RD.  There is no birth entry either in that RD or in Notts between 1886 -1888 apart from this one.  A January birth would be registered in the March qtr so his birthyear
is wrong on the 1939 register

Births March qtr 1888 
WILCOX    Sam         Bingham    7b   449    
WILCOX    Sara         Bingham    7b   44[95

From GRO online
WILCOX, SAM        mmn LILLY 
GRO Reference: 1888  M Quarter in BINGHAM  Volume 07B  Page 449

Can't see a parental marriage
Title: Re: Samuel Wilcox Born Cropwell Butler in 1887
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 16 February 26 20:41 GMT (UK)
Quote
He was the son of Robert and Kate Wilcox.

Cropwell Butler came under Bingham RD.  There is no birth entry either in that RD or in Notts between 1886 -1888 apart from this one.  A January birth would be registered in the March qtr so his birthyear
is wrong on the 1939 register

Births March qtr 1888 
WILCOX    Sam         Bingham    7b   449    
WILCOX    Sara         Bingham    7b   44[95

From GRO online
WILCOX, SAM        mmn LILLY 
GRO Reference: 1888  M Quarter in BINGHAM  Volume 07B  Page 449

Can't see a parental marriage

There’s this marriage entry

Mar 1883   

GREEN    Sarah Jane     Sleaford    7a   609    
LEE    George Ranyard     Sleaford    7a   609    
LILLEY    Kate        Sleaford    7a   609    
Willcocks    Robert  Sleaford    7a   609   
Title: Re: Samuel Wilcox Born Cropwell Butler in 1887
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 16 February 26 21:24 GMT (UK)
Well done Ladyhawk - don’t know how I missed it👏👏