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Title: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: noelwcamogie on Sunday 15 February 26 19:21 GMT (UK)
Hi all, I'm. Trying to find any details of a marriage of a William Wilson to a Mary copley in the very early 1800s in an area called moneenroe, Co. Kilkenny. Possibly in Castlecomer area.. I can see some births of their children but I can't seem to locate their own marriage details.. Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Sunday 15 February 26 21:51 GMT (UK)
What denomination?

If RC, John Grenham’s website indicates that Moneenroe is in the RC parish of Castlecomer.  Baptism records there start in 1812 (with some gaps) but marriages don’t start till 1830, so if that’s where your couple married in an RC ceremony, there are no marriage records to find. But if another denomination I'll search again.
Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: noelwcamogie on Sunday 15 February 26 21:56 GMT (UK)
Thanks,
 Would have been church of ireland

Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Sunday 15 February 26 22:07 GMT (UK)
According to my guide to Church of Ireland records, Castlecomer has baptism, marriage & burial records from 1799 onwards. Originals are in the RCB library in Dublin. Some years are on the rootsireland site (it doesn’t say which years).

So for a thorough check you would need to get someone to go to the RCB library and look the records up. Bear in mind that tradition was to marry in the bride’s parish, after which she’d normally attend her husband’s (assuming it was different) so if she came from a different parish she may not have married in Castlecomer. But their children would be baptised there.
Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: noelwcamogie on Sunday 15 February 26 22:22 GMT (UK)
Thanks Elwyn,
I appericated that. I will follow up

Kind regards
Noel
Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 16 February 26 07:58 GMT (UK)

Duplicate thread-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=896792.msg7715031#new


Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 16 February 26 08:08 GMT (UK)

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...in an area called moneenroe, Co. Kilkenny. Possibly in Castlecomer area..

Moneenroe is a townland in the civil parish of Castlecomer, Co Kilkenny

https://www.townlands.ie/kilkenny/fassadinin/castlecomer/moneenroe/moneenroe/
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4748335#map=11/52.8434/-7.1301


Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: Sinann on Monday 16 February 26 09:54 GMT (UK)
Just choose Kilkenny to see what years are covered.
https://rootsireland.ie/ifhf/online-sources.php
You can take out a 24 hour sub if you think it’s worth it.
Records are transcripts only, no original images.
Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: noelwcamogie on Monday 16 February 26 11:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks Sinann, I will compile a list of possible children and do a bulk search..
Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: Wexflyer on Monday 16 February 26 15:54 GMT (UK)
RootsIreland have your answer.
However, I am confused as to how. Marriage is said to be from Ossory MLs, but not listed in
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/dm/results.jsp?diocese_name=ossory&surname=wilson&firstname=william&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&spouse_last_name=&spouse_first_name=&search=Search (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/dm/results.jsp?diocese_name=ossory&surname=wilson&firstname=william&event_year_from=&event_year_to=&spouse_last_name=&spouse_first_name=&search=Search)

Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: noelwcamogie on Monday 16 February 26 17:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks Wexflyer,  yes it's odd there is no record showing..
Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: Wexflyer on Monday 16 February 26 17:48 GMT (UK)
I should be clear that when I say that RootsIreland have your answer, I mean with respect to the marriage. It appears that the original marriage licences for Ossory must survive, as they don't draw on an index entry.
Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: noelwcamogie on Monday 16 February 26 18:41 GMT (UK)
Understood... Will be great to get the details.. As it's my furthest back, starting point... Thanks again
Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: Sinann on Monday 16 February 26 18:43 GMT (UK)
Does it say on RootsIreland that they married by licence?
Title: Re: Marriage details wilson and Copley moneenroe
Post by: Wexflyer on Tuesday 17 February 26 03:36 GMT (UK)
Does it say on RootsIreland that they married by licence?

Yes - I believe what RootsIreland have are details from the licence, not a marriage register entry.
The actual licence.