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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cambridgeshire => England => Cambridgeshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Andruchappelle on Wednesday 04 February 26 12:02 GMT (UK)
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Hello everyone,
I have a dilemma with an ancestor, James Webb born 1844 in Cambridgeshire.
My problem is that there are two James Webbs born in 1844, both in steeple Morden.
One I can find on the census as an ag lab age 17 with parents William and Ann Webb.
And another I can find on the census age 17 ah lab with parents James and Kesiah Webb.
I have various suggestions on my ancestry tree, but I know it's not good to trust other peoples trees on there.
I have tried looking for steeple Morden parish records but I havent had any luck. And freebmd only goes back to 1837.
Can anyone give me any advice on how to deal with a dilemma like this?
I'm not sure how the correct James can be confirmed if they are both born the same year, and I'm not sure that looking at other records would confirm anything or help differentiate the two.
Thanks
Kind regards
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Who did your James marry? His marriage cert will show his fathers name
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I was going to ask the same question Carole
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One married Sarah Newman on 6.12.1863 - presumably the one with parents William & Ann as the other is single in 1871 & living with widowed mother Kezia
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WEBB, JAMES
PARISH
GRO Reference: 1844 M Quarter in ROYSTON & BUNTINGFORD Volume 06 Page 623
WEBB, JAMES
WADE
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in ROYSTON & BUNTINGFORD Volume 06 Page 573
Both are on the 1861 census on freecen.
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/682c8a39b18f7c034f996428/james-webb-1861-cambridgeshire-royston-1844-?locale=en
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/682c8a41b18f7c034f9965ca/james-webb-1861-cambridgeshire-royston-1844-?locale=en
I presume James married at some point, the names of his children, if any, may give some sort of naming pattern?
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Free bmd
Marriages Jun 1839 William Brown WEBB to Ann PARISH
Royston &c. 6/757
Colin
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James Webb to Keziah Wade
Marriage 25 November 1833
Steeple Morden, Cambridgeshire, England.
Colin
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Thank you all for looking and for the advice about the marriage certificate.
I have the 1844 James Webb on the census with an Ellen as wife and 2 children who were born in Yorkshire.
I'm pretty sure this is my ancestor James, as one of the children is a David Webb which ties in with my records.
So would you suggest that I order the marriage certificate for James and Ellen to see the fathers name?
Kind regards
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So would you suggest that I order the marriage certificate for James and Ellen to see the fathers name? NO
His marriage to Ellen Matthews in 1878 is available on Ancestry to view. His father is James (believe his mother is Kezia Wade )
WEBB, JAMES WADE
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in ROYSTON & BUNTINGFORD Volume 06 Page 573
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So would you suggest that I order the marriage certificate for James and Ellen to see the fathers name? NO
His marriage to Ellen Matthews in 1878 is available on Ancestry to view. His father is James (believe his mother is Kezia Wade )
WEBB, JAMES WADE
GRO Reference: 1844 J Quarter in ROYSTON & BUNTINGFORD Volume 06 Page 573
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Thank you for providing me with that information.
Unfortunately I don't have a subscription with ancestry so I can't see full records.
I do have one doubt though, maybe it's possible that the other James and Sarah had a son called David too?
Although they are not found on any census in the area, so I assume the details of the James you have provided is the correct James.
Thanks again for the help!
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The full details of the marriage are:-
16th November 1878 at Hunslet Moor, St Peter
James Webb, 33, Bachelor, Labourer, of Silsbury Street, Hunslet, (as 1881 census), son of James Webb, Labourer
Ellen Matthews, 27, Spinster, of Silsbury Street, Hunsley, daughter of Robert Matthews, Labourer
Both made marks
Witnesses: Look like William Gray and the mark of Mary Ann Bird
One tree has son, David (1882-1924), marrying Ethel Tatham (1886-1953) Q3 1910 in Royston.
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Which Webb child is your direct descendant - name - birthyear - birthplace?
Which census do you you have them on & who are the parents?
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The full details of the marriage are:-
16th November 1878 at Hunslet Moor, St Peter
James Webb, 33, Bachelor, Labourer, of Silsbury Street, Hunslet, (as 1881 census), son of James Webb, Labourer
Ellen Matthews, 27, Spinster, of Silsbury Street, Hunsley, daughter of Robert Matthews, Labourer
Both made marks
Witnesses: Look like William Gray and the mark of Mary Ann Bird
One tree has son, David (1882-1924), marrying Ethel Tatham (1886-1953) Q3 1910 in Royston.
Yes David Webb is the correct ancestor of mine, born in Yorkshire and he married Ethel tatham.
My dilemma was which James Webb was his father. Because there are two both born on the same year in the same village.
Thank you!
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Which Webb child is your direct descendant - name - birthyear - birthplace?
Which census do you you have them on & who are the parents?
Hi Carole, I am decendant of David Webb born in hunslet Leeds, he is on the census with brother and mother Ellen and father James.
I was just a bit confused because of the two James that exist. But it seems that the one married an Ellen Matthews is the correct James!
Thanks all for the help in solving this :)