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I'm searching for a Rose Mary TYRIE nee Jones born about 1874 a patient in Mental Home in NSW or possibly Queensland before 1921.
Can anyone please assist me.
Regards
clancam37
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What was her mother's name?
Obviously her mother was in an asylum at the time of the child's birth.
We really need more information to help.
Where and to whom did she marry?
Sue
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What do you need?
I see:
Rose Mary Jones b 1878, registered Lambeth, Uk
Marriage:
27 Jul. 1899, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Rose Mary Jones, 20, spinster, no occ shown, residence: Well Bank (possibly Will Bank)
Charles Cambell Baxter Tyrie, 28, bachelor, surgeon, residence: Kinnaid House, Keighly
Father Joseph Jones, marine engineer, deceased
Spouse Father Charles Tyrie, gentleman, deceased
Register Type Parish Register
1901 Census
Both at Victoria St, Keighly, with baby 7 months - Charles C S Tyrie
His occupation Physician
1906 Electoral Roll (Australia)
both at Church St, Boonah - surname recorded as "Baxter-Tyrie".
His occ: medical practitioner, hers: domestic duties
1909
both at Abbot St, Cairns. listed under "Tryrie" and both have Baxter listed as a forename.
His occ: medical practitioner
Child's birth:
Caroline Dorothy Shirley Baxter-Tyrie
Birth Date 5 Jun. 1908
Queensland, Australia
Father Charles Campbell Baxter-Tyrie
Mother Rosemary Jones
Page number 1442 #B017803
Not the same people
1921
Electoral Roll, Shoreditch and Stepney
Richard Charles Tyrie
Rose Mary Tyrie
There is this enigmatic entry in Arrivals
Name Baxter Tyrie
Arrival Age 7
Birth Date abt 1907
Port of Departure Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date 12 Jul. 1914
Port of Arrival London, England
Ports of Voyage Sydney; Melbourne; Albany; Durban; Cape Town
Ship Name Suevic, White Star Dominion Line
Official Number 113456
Was she being sent back to UK for school as she is in the 1921 UK census, among a list of school pupils and staff as follows:
Shirley Baxter-Tyrie
Nationality Visitor, British Born
Age 12 Years 1 Month
Relation to Head Pupil
Orphanhood Father Dead
Estimated Birth Year 1909
Birth Place Boonah, Queensland, Australia
Residence Date 1921
Residence Street Address Clarendon House, 5 Argyle Road, Southport
Residence Place Southport, Lancashire, England
Education Whole-Time
Occupation Student
Hesketh
Parliamentary Division Southport Pb
Registration District Ormskirk
Registration District Number 457
Sub registration district Southport
Sub Registration District Number 6
Respondent Miss Hoghen
Enumeration District Name Southport Cb
Enumeration District 48
Schedule Type Code Eee
Page number 3
Does this cover what you wanted to know?
Will dig a bit further
Judith
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The son died in Queensland:
Charles Campbell Swinburne Carr Baxter-Tyrie
Death date:14/10/1953
Mother's name:Rosemary Jones
Father/parent's name:Charles Campbell
Registration details:1953/C/4394
Judith
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I'm glad you read the opening post better than me Judith ::)
I had the impression Rose Mary was born in an asylum.
Misunderstood!
Sue
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From TROVE
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/39927885
Cairns Post, 4 March 1913
MRS:. TYRIE'S ILLNESS.
The many friends bf Dr. Baxter Tyrie will be glad to learn that yesterday 'he despatched an urgent telegram, from Sydney, conveying the news that Mrs. Tyrie had passed successfully through an operation, and was doing well.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/42881683
Cairns Post 20 March 1914
BIRTH
BAXTER TYRIE.—At Abbott-street, Cairns, the wife of Dr. C. C. Baxter Tyrie—a daughter.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/40234583
Cairns Post, 1 Feb 1917
Death of Dr. Tyrie.
Mr. P. J. Doyle received an urgent wire on Wednesday -morning stating that Dr. Tyrie, formerly of' Cairns had died at Cootamundra.
There's many mentions of Dr Tyrie in Cairns but the others I saw didn't seem relevant.
Judith
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More from TROVE
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/123529538
The Gundagai Times and Tumut, Adelong and Murrumbidgee District Advertiser , Tue 6 Feb 1917
The death occurred in the Cootamundra Hospital, on Wednesday morning of Dr. Charles Campbell
Baxter-Tyrie, of Harden, the cause of death being pneumonia. ' He was aged 45, and leaves a wife and five children— two sons and three daughters. His eldest son is now studying for the medical profession in Scotland.
The implication is that his wife is alive at this time.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/113636025
Buried at Murrumburrah cemetery.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/226218522
Government Gazette of the State of New South Wales, Fri 10 Aug 1917
Probate granted to Isabella Macaulay of Harden, sole executrix
Amendment:
I gave this UK electoral information in a previous post, but, in the light of this death and further records the information is for another couple
1921 Electoral Roll, Shoreditch and Stepney
Richard Charles Tyrie
Rose Mary Tyrie
Judith
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Hi Sparrett,
What was her mother's name?
Her Mother's details are a mystery, can find no trace of her Mum. Her Father: Joseph Jones , occ: Marine Engineer, dec'd as at 1899.
Rootschatter judb has provided a lot of info ( see Below)
Obviously her mother was in an asylum at the time of the child's birth.
We really need more information to help.
Where and to whom did she marry?
Married Charles Baxter Tyrie, occ: Surgeon. He died 1917 Harden NSW.
Regards
clancam 37
Sue
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Hi Judith,
Thanks, appreciate this wealth of information.
Rose Mary Tyrie returned to live in the UK following the death of her Husband Charles in Harden NSW 1917.
Two of their children chose to remain in Australia after their Father's death.
I have their details.
Missing information: Rose birth details etc, Her Mother Roses Mary Jones early life, where born. IN addition Rose may have been an Inmate of a Mental Institution in NSW about 1909. As she lived in Cairns Queensland she may have been in a Mental Home there. Her Husband Charles, a member of the Royal Navy served as Medical Officer on board an Australian Navy Ship early WW1 around New Guinea, then a German province. What do you need?
Kind regards
clancam37
I see:
Rose Mary Jones b 1878, registered Lambeth, Uk
Marriage:
27 Jul. 1899, Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Rose Mary Jones, 20, spinster, no occ shown, residence: Well Bank (possibly Will Bank)
Charles Cambell Baxter Tyrie, 28, bachelor, surgeon, residence: Kinnaid House, Keighly
Father Joseph Jones, marine engineer, deceased
Spouse Father Charles Tyrie, gentleman, deceased
Register Type Parish Register
1901 Census
Both at Victoria St, Keighly, with baby 7 months - Charles C S Tyrie
His occupation Physician
1906 Electoral Roll (Australia)
both at Church St, Boonah - surname recorded as "Baxter-Tyrie".
His occ: medical practitioner, hers: domestic duties
1909
both at Abbot St, Cairns. listed under "Tryrie" and both have Baxter listed as a forename.
His occ: medical practitioner
Child's birth:
Caroline Dorothy Shirley Baxter-Tyrie
Birth Date 5 Jun. 1908
Queensland, Australia
Father Charles Campbell Baxter-Tyrie
Mother Rosemary Jones
Page number 1442 #B017803
Not the same people
1921
Electoral Roll, Shoreditch and Stepney
Richard Charles Tyrie
Rose Mary Tyrie
There is this enigmatic entry in Arrivals
Name Baxter Tyrie
Arrival Age 7
Birth Date abt 1907
Port of Departure Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date 12 Jul. 1914
Port of Arrival London, England
Ports of Voyage Sydney; Melbourne; Albany; Durban; Cape Town
Ship Name Suevic, White Star Dominion Line
Official Number 113456
Was she being sent back to UK for school as she is in the 1921 UK census, among a list of school pupils and staff as follows:
Shirley Baxter-Tyrie
Nationality Visitor, British Born
Age 12 Years 1 Month
Relation to Head Pupil
Orphanhood Father Dead
Estimated Birth Year 1909
Birth Place Boonah, Queensland, Australia
Residence Date 1921
Residence Street Address Clarendon House, 5 Argyle Road, Southport
Residence Place Southport, Lancashire, England
Education Whole-Time
Occupation Student
Hesketh
Parliamentary Division Southport Pb
Registration District Ormskirk
Registration District Number 457
Sub registration district Southport
Sub Registration District Number 6
Respondent Miss Hoghen
Enumeration District Name Southport Cb
Enumeration District 48
Schedule Type Code Eee
Page number 3
Does this cover what you wanted to know?
Will dig a bit further
Judith
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This looks like her in 1891 census
11 WellBank, Haslingden, Lancashire
Thomas Swinburn Carr, Head, Married, 53, Cotton manufacturer, b London, Middlesex, England
Caroline Carr, Wife, Married, 42, b Flintshire, Wales
Mary Rose Jones, niece, age 12, b London
If her father was a marine engineer, as listed on her marriage certificate, he may well have been at sea.
Well Bank was her residence on the marriage certificate
Judith
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Hi Judith,
You are wonderful. Thanks.
The Thomas Swinburn CARR is a good clue.
At least one of Charles & Mary Tyrie's children had the given name Swinburn.
Will focus on a possible mental institution link.
clancam37