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Title: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 01 February 26 14:57 GMT (UK)
Please .
Can anyone find Arthur Gilliland  after 1933, last  recorded as being in Blackpool. I have got him from birth through 3 marriages.  I`ve added extra info in case anyone else is looking for him, in the  census when he is with his  family and first wife he says born Bolton. After that he is  b Liverpool and Ireland. Mary Howells is just as bad , but as there are none of her marriages on line then I don`t know who her father was . I won`t be buying certificates. There are a few
Arthur Gilliland but none of them fit. I can`t find him in 1939 and can`t find a death .

Arthur Gilliland baptism Date   24 Aug 1870    St. Georges, Bolton-le-Moors,
Father   John Gilliland  Mother   Martha Gilliland
1871 his father is a Carver and Gilder. B Ireland

Marriage Date   15 Sep 1897 Kirkdale
Arthur Gilliland 24 b 1873 pawn broker. Father John Heard Gilliland Carver
Spouse   Margaret Annie Halstead

1901Wrexham
Arthr Gilliland  head 26 b 1875 b Bolton
He is alone as his wife  Margaret is with her parents in Kirkdale and very pregnant. She and the baby died in August that year.. Their other daughter Edna  b 1899 Wrexham was with her Grandparents in 1911

Mary Howells married Herbert Felton in Chester in 1886.
He died and Mary remarried to John Price in 1898 in Toxteth Park.
In 1901 they are in the Hat,we know it`s the same family as Thomas and Herbert Felton  are there as stepsons to John Price. 1903 John Price died at the Hat aged 37,

1905 West Derby
Arthur Gilliland  married Mary Price.

In 1907 Arthur was found guilty of fraud and did 3 months in prison. The Hat Inn is mentioned.

1911 Beast Market.(Hat)
Mary Gilliland  38 Head b Oswestry, Shropshire,
Arthur Gilliland   38 Husband b Belfast Ireland
Herbert John Felton 20 stepson from Mary`s first marriage

1921 Beast Market ( Hat Inn )
Mary Gelliland Age 49 Years 2 Months 1872 b Langham, Suffolk,
Arthur Gelliland  Age 48 Years 3 Months    1873 Birth Place   Liverpool,

Mary Gilliland buried Jan 1922. Wrexham, aged 52

1911 42 Beechey Street Oldham
John Samuel Garlick Taylor 43
Annie Elizabeth Taylor 42  b Pershore, Worcester, (bapt 4 Oct 1868 Pershore father Alfred Duffy)

21 July 1924 Arthur Gilliland  48 widower salesman  married Annie Elizabeth Taylor  52  of 42 Beechy Street in
Oldham
Father John Hard   Gilliland ,  Carver dec.
Father Alfred Duffy gardener .dec.

Tewkesbury Register - Saturday 03 June 1933
Mrs Annie Elizabeth Gilliland, of 78. Newlunds, Pershore, applied for a maintenance order on the grounds of desertion, against her husband Arthur Gilliland, of 41. Keswick Road, Blackpool. Arthur  Gilliland left his wife on April 4. The defendant expressed his agreement to pay 12s. per week and an order was made
Title: Re: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 01 February 26 15:00 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: softly softly on Sunday 01 February 26 18:35 GMT (UK)
I think you will have this.

GILLILAND, EDNA       HALSTEAD 
GRO Reference: 1899  D Quarter in WREXHAM  Volume 11B  Page 255

GILLILAND, ETHEL       HALSTEAD 
GRO Reference: 1898  S Quarter in WREXHAM  Volume 11B  Page 286

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Title: Re: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: hanes teulu on Sunday 01 February 26 18:44 GMT (UK)
I'd had a go at tracking Arthur after responding to your other post - but not a great deal of success.

Added - I'd spotted an Ernest Gilligan in Charles Street, pawnbroker, Cheshire Observer, 17 Sep 1904, which I intended following up.

Title: Re: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 01 February 26 19:36 GMT (UK)
I think you will have this.

GILLILAND, EDNA       HALSTEAD 
GRO Reference: 1899  D Quarter in WREXHAM  Volume 11B  Page 255

GILLILAND, ETHEL       HALSTEAD 
GRO Reference: 1898  S Quarter in WREXHAM  Volume 11B  Page 286

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Yes Thank you.
Title: Re: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: wilcoxon on Sunday 01 February 26 19:45 GMT (UK)
I'd had a go at tracking Arthur after responding to your other post - but not a great deal of success.

Added - I'd spotted an Ernest Gilligan in Charles Street, pawnbroker, Cheshire Observer, 17 Sep 1904, which I intended following up.

 I think that is Arthur , in 1901 he is a pawnbrokers assistant.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: familydar on Monday 02 February 26 13:54 GMT (UK)
Presumably you've tried searching the 1939 register with just DoB and no name, he may be badly mistranscribed or using a false name that bears some relationship to his true name.  I'd expect there to be may be a few hundred to work through but you could pick off the ones local to Blackpool (last sighting) first.

Jane :-)
Title: Re: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: softly softly on Monday 02 February 26 15:06 GMT (UK)
Presumably you've tried searching the 1939 register with just DoB and no name, he may be badly mistranscribed or using a false name that bears some relationship to his true name.  I'd expect there to be may be a few hundred to work through but you could pick off the ones local to Blackpool (last sighting) first.

Jane :-)

It would appear that until a £3 gro birth record is purchased we will not have an exact dob to search war register with.

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Title: Re: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: wilcoxon on Monday 02 February 26 15:57 GMT (UK)
GILLILAND, ARTHUR   mmn    GRERE 
GRO Reference: 1870  M Quarter in BOLTON 

it narrows it down a bit. This project is really about the Hat, but just curious as to where he went.
 Thanks.

Title: Re: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: softly softly on Monday 02 February 26 16:17 GMT (UK)
GILLILAND, ARTHUR   mmn    GRERE 
GRO Reference: 1870  M Quarter in BOLTON 

it narrows it down a bit. This project is really about the Hat, but just curious as to where he went.
 Thanks.

That's the easy bit, actual cert gives us all something to work with. :D

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Title: Re: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: wilcoxon on Monday 02 February 26 17:15 GMT (UK)
I have tried finding the death of his third wife,  Annie Elizabeth Taylor, but again nothing.I wonder if she got rid of the Gilliland name, but that's nothing to do with the  Hat.
Title: Re: Arthur Gilliland, where did he go ?
Post by: softly softly on Monday 02 February 26 18:06 GMT (UK)
I have tried finding the death of his third wife,  Annie Elizabeth Taylor, but again nothing.I wonder if she got rid of the Gilliland name, but that's nothing to do with the  Hat.

No she did not lose the surname, easy when you have exact dob.. She appears in Derby in 1939 and dies

GILLILAND, ANNIE  ELIZABETH     76 
GRO Reference: 1945  M Quarter in DERBY  Volume 07B  Page 792

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