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Title: Arthur is missing!
Post by: Lisajj on Friday 30 January 26 12:44 GMT (UK)
Hi, and thanks for reading my post!

I am stuck!  I have Arthur Kelly (b.1906 and d.1967) but I cannot find any records prior to his marriage to Winifred Ashby in Coventry in 1928.
Through newspaper trawling, from a memorial notice, I discovered his father was Bill (William?) Kelly and his mother Mary Kelly. And also that there was a sister Mary who married Thomas Wareham.
However, I cannot find any of them before 1928.  There is a family rumour that someone changed their surname when they went AWOL from the military, but again, nothing concreate. All of the records I have are in the Coventry area, but no baptism.
I can send off for Arthur's marriage certificate, as I haven't found a matching parish record online.
Could they have been Catholic? Although apart from the surname having Irish connections, there's nothing to suggest it.
Any help would be amazing.
Thanks
Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 30 January 26 12:52 GMT (UK)
The high page number (1495) for the 1928 marriage entry would suggest to me that it was a Register Office marriage.  :-\
Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: softly softly on Friday 30 January 26 13:07 GMT (UK)
I'm working on the sister,

Mary   Wareham nee' Kelly   12 Jan 1910

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Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: Daisypetal on Friday 30 January 26 13:09 GMT (UK)

Hi,

From Register his DOB is  24 Jun 1906.

Daisy

Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: AllanUK on Friday 30 January 26 13:34 GMT (UK)
Could this be the family in the 1921 Census staying at Lodging House, Crompton Street, Warwick

(snippet images courtesy of Find My Past)

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBC%2F1921%2FRG15%2F14680%2F0241%2F08&expand=true&tab=this
Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: softly softly on Friday 30 January 26 16:01 GMT (UK)
1911 census--Mr John Baker 55 All Hallows Lane Bedford, Bedford, Bedfordshire, England

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Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 30 January 26 16:17 GMT (UK)

From Register his DOB is  24 Jun 1906.


William Henry Kelly occ Hawker
Enlistment Age   41
Marriage Date   3 Feb 1916
Marriage Place   Register Office Warwick
Document Date   1917
Residence Place   No8 Sandersons Court Sabsbuck, Plymouth
Military Date   1917
Regimental Number   184626
Regiment Name   Royal Garrison Artillery
Number of Images   46
Form Title   Attestation
Family Members (Name)   Relation to Soldier
Mary Williams Spouse born
Arthur Kelly Child born 24 Jun 1907 (amended from 1906)
Mary Bastian Kelly Child born 12 Jun 1910
Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: softly softly on Friday 30 January 26 16:38 GMT (UK)
William H Kelly m Mary Burlison Mar qtr 1916 Warwick RD
Volume Number   6d Page number   1495

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Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 30 January 26 16:44 GMT (UK)
William H Kelly m Mary Burlison Mar qtr 1916 Warwick RD
Volume Number   6d Page number   1495

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Was just about to post same  after reading William's Army record - added  Mary (widow) William (B)
Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: softly softly on Friday 30 January 26 16:54 GMT (UK)
Arthur's GRO birth registration

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Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 30 January 26 16:58 GMT (UK)
I guess this must be their marriage
Dec 1894   
Burlison    John Richard    Portsea    2b   1003    
Priddis    Mary        Portsea    2b   1003

Added thought I'd seen name Priddis mentioned
Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: softly softly on Friday 30 January 26 17:34 GMT (UK)
Posting until proved incorrect.

Marriages Jun 1911   
Gorringe    Thomas        Brighton    2b   518   
Priddis    Mary        Brighton    2b   518    

GORRINGE, MARY  ELLEN     mmn PRIDDIS 
GRO Reference: 1911  S Quarter in BRIGHTON  Volume 02B  Page 367


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Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 30 January 26 17:42 GMT (UK)
Posting until proved incorrect.

Marriages Jun 1911   
Gorringe    Thomas        Brighton    2b   518   
Priddis    Mary        Brighton    2b   518    

GORRINGE, MARY  ELLEN     mmn PRIDDIS 
GRO Reference: 1911  S Quarter in BRIGHTON  Volume 02B  Page 367

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You could be correct - need to check if Mary’s father was a Patrick Priddis

I think this is her in 1921 she is with her Priddis grandparents
Mary Gorring 1910 Birth Brighton, Sussex
Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 30 January 26 17:46 GMT (UK)
1911 census there’s a Mary Priddis born 1891 Brighton with her parents Patrick and Ellen
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7BY-CF6?lang=en
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Post by: softly softly on Friday 30 January 26 19:10 GMT (UK)
PRIDDIS, MARY       mmnMACDONALD 
GRO Reference: 1876  J Quarter in BRIGHTON  Volume 02B  Page 235

1901 census--Haylers Cottages, 5, Brighton, Sussex, England

John   Burlison Head Married 27 Flowers hawker b London, Middlesex
Mary   Burlison Wife 26 Flowers hawker    b Brighton, Sussex

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Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: softly softly on Friday 30 January 26 20:26 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 30 January 26 23:04 GMT (UK)

PRIDDIS, MARY       mmnMACDONALD 
GRO Reference: 1876  J Quarter in BRIGHTON  Volume 02B  Page 235

1901 census--Haylers Cottages, 5, Brighton, Sussex, England

John   Burlison Head Married 27 Flowers hawker b London, Middlesex
Mary   Burlison Wife 26 Flowers hawker    b Brighton, Sussex


Mary Priddes Age 14 b Brighton, Sussex
Inmate of home
1891 census Midhurst, Sussex
Piece   847
Folio   99

Familysearch has a transcription of the 1894 marriage to John Burlison
Mary Priddis age 18 father Thomas Priddis
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NXX-VFC7?lang=en

Dec 1856   
Dray    Ann                        Brighton    2b   386    
Macdonald   Mary        Brighton    2b   386   
Marchant    John        Brighton    2b   386    
Priddis    Thomas        Brighton    2b   386   
Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 31 January 26 09:23 GMT (UK)
Daughter Mary Wareham nee' Kelly appears in 1939 with husband on war register. 10 entries below her name is William H Kelly dob 18.09.1879.

Probable death
KELLY, WILLIAM  HENRY     aged 73 
GRO Reference: 1947  D Quarter in COVENTRY  Volume 09C  Page 621

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Post by: softly softly on Saturday 31 January 26 11:10 GMT (UK)
GODDARD, ELLEN  QUEENIE     mmn PRIDDIS 
GRO Reference: 1906  D Quarter in STEYNING  Volume 02B  Page 235

Can be found in 1911 census in Brighton with parents and siblings.

The address is as per Arthur's birth registration.

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Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: ciderdrinker on Saturday 31 January 26 11:38 GMT (UK)
Hi
In case it helps Mary Priddies father is given as Thomas Priddies fisherman in 1894.

Her birth GRO reg June 1876 gives mmn as MacDonald.

1881 80 Edward St Brighton indexed as Puddis on Ancestry
Mary married 41 Hawker Ireland
Annie 14 hawker Brighton
Patrick 17 (actually 10) scholar Brighton
Catherine 7
Mary 5

1871 Egremont St Brighton
Thomas 36 fish hawker Brighton
Mary 31  same Ireland
Hannah 4 Brighton
Patrick 1 Brighton.

Annie/Hannah is a flower seller when she gets convicted of stealing 10 Jan 1882 from Frank Ernest Wood with a group of 3 others.It was her 2nd offence and she got 10 days in prison and 5 years in a reformatory.
It looks like mother Mary died June 1890 .  Your Mary born 1875/6 is in some sort of home in Midhurst Sussex in 1891.
Thomas Priddis and Mary MacDonald were married Dec 1856 Brighton.
Other children Thomas 1857 ,Henry born and died Dec 1860 and Michael Mar 1864- Mar 1865.

Not getting a death for Thomas Priddies Senior.

  ps John Richard  Burlison's father was John a Chief Steward.

1881 Westover Road MEOT
John 34 sailor Kingston Surrey
Mary  29 Stepney
John 9 Scholar Stepney
Mary Ann Lyn widow lodger 50 Worcester

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Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 31 January 26 12:03 GMT (UK)
Possible death of Thomas Priddis senior.

Deaths Mar 1875   
PRIDDIS    Thomas    42    Faringdon    2c   218

However burial register for St Mary, Acton: Acton Town Centre 1813-1891 records he died in Faringdon, buried in Acton 9th March 1875.

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Title: Re: Arthur is missing!
Post by: Lisajj on Friday 13 February 26 20:56 GMT (UK)
Thank you all so much!  I love you all!

Please let me know if I can ever return the favour - sometimes you can't see the wood for the trees!

LisaJC